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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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Fronts est at ~ 20k miles, rears will be replaced at 14k miles.
 
Old Feb 4, 2018 | 10:07 PM
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I change out the P Zeros at 2500 miles. Did not like the ride quality. Switched over to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.
BIG difference in ride and slightly better handling IMHO.
 
Old Feb 12, 2018 | 09:49 AM
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I replace mine around every 7-8k miles. It depends on your driving style. I recommend Michelin tires. I have had bad experiences with Pirellis.
 
Old Feb 14, 2018 | 07:31 AM
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NO means it has been approved by Porsche
 
Old Feb 14, 2018 | 08:07 AM
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Bridgestone Potenza RE11 summer tires replaced at ~8,000 miles 4-5/32.
 
Old Feb 15, 2018 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Gator
A guy at work (I got a "guy") told me the basic spec. is "N" and the 0 (zero) is the primary version of the spec. If the spec. gets revised, the spec. will then be called N1, than N2.....
Is it a Pirelli spec. or a Porsche spec.? Not important, just curious.
Your "guy" told you right.

Various auto manufactures (Porsche, BMW, Ferrari, etc.) develop tire specs in conjunction with various tire manufactures Pirelli, Michelin, Goodyear, etc.). Porsche uses an "N" followed by a number as you describe on the tire sidewall to designate those tires meeting their specs.
 
Old Feb 15, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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If P zeroes, delivery miles is more than enough. Trade that waste of rubber into cup 2's and your life will be completely different
 
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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getting 4 Michelin Pro Sport 4S in a couple of weeks

there's the N version and another version with no N classification

know that the N is to Porsche specs, but does not getting an N make that much of a difference?

No tracking, just spirited driving
 
Old Feb 17, 2018 | 05:11 PM
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N indicates that porsche tested the tires to be within parameters that the PSM account for the rolling resistance as part of the stability/traction control. It's just another factor taken in consideration before intervening with the traction (eg electronic diff - aka break one rear wheel).
One could get tires with completely different characteristics, which matter how often, how soon and how much the intervention occurs.
Thanks in part to the size requirements and advances in manufacturing, in all truth, these tires fall within a very similar range.
With that being sad, P zeroes still suck.
 
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Originally Posted by Little Gator
I was told when I bought my car that the tires were filled with nitrogen gas instead of air. I had heard the sales pitch before about how this switch was suppose to be better because the tire's pressure level would be more stable. But in real world practice, I can't say that I would ever be able to know any different. When the ambient temperature drops as the weather changes, the tire pressure will surely drop whether the tires are filled with one or the other. If I drive the car, the tires will get hot, no matter what they are filled with. And if I have a low pressure reading, I am going to fill it at home with air, as I am not about to drive to the dealer for nitrogen to try to keep it all nitrogen filled, if that was worth anything at all.
78% of the air we breathe is N2. Regardless, N2 or not, the pirellis overheat quickly under hard track use. The Cup2s keep temperatures at bay far better. That comparison is made with pirellis w/N2 and Cup2 with "standard" air

Maybe for professional race nitrogen may give an edge. For track day is pretty useless, IMHO. You have to bleed the tires anyway, and unless you have a N2 cylinder with you, you will use air from the track to drive back.
 
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Originally Posted by Little Gator
Michelin tires may be better than Pirelli tires, but if they both meet the "N0" spec requirements, how could they be so different? Or else the "N0" spec has little true control or value, and is more for show and making $$.
I agree. I really doubt there is a huge difference when comparing new tires. Keep in mind most guys get rid of OLD Pirellis and get NEW Michelins. Porsche has shipped cars on both so they can't be terrible. Having said that, I'll probably go Michelin this summer.....from Pirelli.
 
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Originally Posted by Little Gator
I was told when I bought my car that the tires were filled with nitrogen gas instead of air. I had heard the sales pitch before about how this switch was suppose to be better because the tire's pressure level would be more stable. But in real world practice, I can't say that I would ever be able to know any different. When the ambient temperature drops as the weather changes, the tire pressure will surely drop whether the tires are filled with one or the other. If I drive the car, the tires will get hot, no matter what they are filled with. And if I have a low pressure reading, I am going to fill it at home with air, as I am not about to drive to the dealer for nitrogen to try to keep it all nitrogen filled, if that was worth anything at all.
A lot of car dealers equipped themselves with these little profit centers (Nitro refill) a few years ago . Its been proven many times to have virtually zero affect on a road cars performance. Not sure why anyone would buy air.
 
Old Feb 23, 2018 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 911BOY
I agree. I really doubt there is a huge difference when comparing new tires. Keep in mind most guys get rid of OLD Pirellis and get NEW Michelins. Porsche has shipped cars on both so they can't be terrible. Having said that, I'll probably go Michelin this summer.....from Pirelli.
Porsche do not sell Carrera with Cup2. PS4 has only recently specced. Reviews suggest it is better than P0 (big feat ) in the city but fragile for track

Based on prior experiences, I replaced the P0s with minimal miles towards Cup2. P0s are terrible on dry, horrible on wet and dangerous on the track. Once they warm up, they won't last long before overheating. One needs to keep watching the temps or you will spin.

Cup2s should be avoided at speed if rains pools in the tarmac. I drove it in the rain and actually aimed for puddles at reduced speed to check for sliding, didn't happen. They are really good on daily basis and phenomenal on the track.
 
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