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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by S4corrado996TT
Tim and John D thank you very much for info!

BTW, Tim can you tell me what is the max boost with pump gas you can dail in your setup without running too lean and how many flywheel hp your car makes?
I am installing the same setup and on 91 pump, boost should be 1.1 and fly HP is about 600
 
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Mike,

According to Todd, the base Protomotive package dynos well over 600 HP if you add V-Flow and ported headers. It should spool a little quicker, as well. However, that may be with race gas and higher boost. Bottom line is that Todd dynoed a car with this set-up and got much better numbers than without it...
 
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Originally Posted by mikerosi
I am installing the same setup and on 91 pump, boost should be 1.1 and fly HP is about 600

hey mike i only have #'s running on 93 oct 551 whp 1.18 bar around 640-650 chp i got these #'s from a performance box http://www.driftbox.com (accuracy within 5% of dyno) as far as boost on 91 oct get an afr guage (i got an actron obd2 reader from autotozone plugs into obd2 port and give a ton of live data such as - load, intake air temp, maf readings as well as 02 sensor readings on both banks) and start slow on the boost and go up and watch you afr's

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hey mike i only have #'s running on 93 oct 551 whp 1.18 bar around 640-650 chp i got these #'s from a performance box http://www.driftbox.com (accuracy within 5% of dyno) as far as boost on 91 oct get an afr guage (i got an actron obd2 reader from autotozone plugs into obd2 port and give a ton of live data such as - load, intake air temp, maf readings as well as 02 sensor readings on both banks) and start slow on the boost and go up and watch you afr's

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Tim,

you should do it in high boost and see what it says. Did you ever get another cord so we can put it in my car? Need to do some 60-130's too!
 
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Tim,

you should do it in high boost and see what it says. Did you ever get another cord so we can put it in my car? Need to do some 60-130's too!
yes i have a cord and no i have not done the high boost yet i need you to watch my bc so i can tune it also i put an email into torco they have a an unleaded (mach108) its 108 oct i want a 55 of that stuff

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Originally Posted by colorinc
yes i have a cord and no i have not done the high boost yet i need you to watch my bc so i can tune it also i put an email into torco they have a an unleaded (mach108) its 108 oct i want a 55 of that stuff

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How much? The 55 gallon drum of GT104 is $322.52 including taxes which comes out to $5.86/gallon. We have been paying $6.14/gallon at the pump.
 
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Originally Posted by buddyg
How much? The 55 gallon drum of GT104 is $322.52 including taxes which comes out to $5.86/gallon. We have been paying $6.14/gallon at the pump.
r u serious! 322.52 WOW man! I pay 400 delivered a 55 gallon tank! Hmm Im gonna have to speak up.

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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r u serious! 322.52 WOW man! I pay 400 delivered a 55 gallon tank! Hmm Im gonna have to speak up.

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That includes free delivery. Tim, the VP MS109 is $10.90/gallon for the 55 gallon drum! YIKES! Plus no delivery!
 
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Originally Posted by buddyg
How much? The 55 gallon drum of GT104 is $322.52 including taxes which comes out to $5.86/gallon. We have been paying $6.14/gallon at the pump.
Where do you order it from? I've tried local distributors here in Georgia, but they won't return my emails.
 
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What's the difference between a Proto 650 and Proto 700?
 
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Ari,

Actually, quite a bit. And the 700 drives much differently with the fuel system. I just got the Y-Pipe kit in yesterday and took a few pictures of it, as I have been using a modified V-Flow up until now. Below are a few pictures of the P700 components that are not on the 600-650. In addition the 700 uses Protomotive intercoolers, which are not pictured. Larger TB and plenum is optional on the 700, but I believe part of the way to get to "650" from "600".

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60 LB. injectors / Seconary Fuel Pump


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Rebuilt Front Fuel Pump
 
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hey john this is the next step huh? are you doing the install?

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Ari,

Actually, quite a bit. And the 700 drives much differently with the fuel system. I just got the Y-Pipe kit in yesterday and took a few pictures of it, as I have been using a modified V-Flow up until now. Below are a few pictures of the P700 components that are not on the 600-650. In addition the 700 uses Protomotive intercoolers, which are not pictured. Larger TB and plenum is optional on the 700, but I believe part of the way to get to "650" from "600".

Y-Pipe Kit






60 LB. injectors / Seconary Fuel Pump


Protomotive MAF


Rebuilt Front Fuel Pump
 
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Just for curiousity.. what does a 700 run $$ ... approx of course?
 
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Colorinc,

Most of the your next step is already done on my car (all the fuel stuff w/ MAF, TB, etc.). The only part remaining on my car is the Y-Pipe install (1st 3 pictures) and yes, I am going to do this myself. I will probably wait until winter, but maybe not. Not sure yet. The Protomotive MAF is not totally happy with my modified V-Flow and I have surging idle at times. The Protomotive Y-Pipe should cure the uneven idle, so that is why I am putting it in. I will have a set of EVO fresh air intake pipes for sale when these parts go in - if anybody is interested.

Ari,

I am not sure of the price for the 700 complete - you would have to email Todd at protomotive.
 
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