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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by stuka
The M3 will do 167mph in 5th gear, the limiter only works in 6th.

Interestingly, a stock Turbo charges to 175mph frantically, then it's 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, you get the idea.

Top speed requires generous dose of HP and aerodynamics.
Yes sir, and with the governor removed and a little bit of mods, an E46 M3 is easily capable of hitting 180 mph with enough room. I have hit 170+ in mine on a few occasions and the car is solid. The M3 is geared to hit 201 mph, but unfortuneately drag limited.
 
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Matt Fresh
The M3 is geared to hit 201 mph, but unfortuneately drag limited.
Isn't that what top speed is all about, drag?
You'll get diminishing return with extra HP at some point.
Aerodynamics is what it takes.
 
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by Matt Fresh
Yes sir, and with the governor removed and a little bit of mods, an E46 M3 is easily capable of hitting 180 mph with enough room. I have hit 170+ in mine on a few occasions and the car is solid. The M3 is geared to hit 201 mph, but unfortuneately drag limited.
BMW speedos are good for about 7 to 10% error (too fast) at those speeds. Their speedos are about as good as their electronics (and E46 motors).
 
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Matt Fresh
Yes sir, and with the governor removed and a little bit of mods, an E46 M3 is easily capable of hitting 180 mph with enough room. I have hit 170+ in mine on a few occasions and the car is solid. The M3 is geared to hit 201 mph, but unfortuneately drag limited.
Give it a break, my friend. No one cross-shops ANY Aston and an M3, or any BMW for that matter, and if you want to talk about pure, unadulterated flat-out performance, your first stop would not be a BMW dealership. I personally really like M3s but they are a POS when it comes to durability and reliability. This thread is about the Vanquish S, a candidate for the world's most beautiful car. Respect the subject matter of this thread or check out the BMW M section. I'm sure you'll find lots of friends there.
 
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by ben, lj
BMW speedos are good for about 7 to 10% error (too fast) at those speeds. Their speedos are about as good as their electronics (and E46 motors).
So are Porsche speedos, in fact, BMW and Porsche are the worst in accuracy.

Give it a break, my friend. No one cross-shops ANY Aston and an M3, or any BMW for that matter, and if you want to talk about pure, unadulterated flat-out performance, your first stop would not be a BMW dealership. I personally really like M3s but they are a POS when it comes to durability and reliability. This thread is about the Vanquish S, a candidate for the world's most beautiful car. Respect the subject matter of this thread or check out the BMW M section. I'm sure you'll find lots of friends there.
Ken, if you look at the cars in my sig, you will notice that I drive more than an M3. BTW, when the BMW M6 comes out with its 507 HP V10 F1/Williams engine with a 7 speed sequential shifter, with its looks and performance will be a great competitor with an Aston for much less money. Actually, IMO, the 6 series looks quite a bit like an AM and will most definately kick it's *** in performance.

BTW, this thread about the Vanquish is in the Porsche forums, and I was just stating my opinion about the AM's performance characteristics compared to other cars.

Check this out... here is a nice vid of the M5.
http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=850
 

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"So are Porsche speedos..."

What do Porsche speedos have to do with the accuracy of the claimed 170+ on the M3?
 
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by ben, lj
"So are Porsche speedos..."

What do Porsche speedos have to do with the accuracy of the claimed 170+ on the M3?
what are you trying to say, that an M3 isn't capable of going 170+ mph?
 
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by Matt Fresh
what are you trying to say, that an M3 isn't capable of going 170+ mph?
not exactly. rather i'm just saying that your achieving an indicated 170 via a famously bogus speedo is not good evidence they are capable of doing so.
 

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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by ben, lj
not exactly. rather i'm just saying that your achieving an indicated 170 via a famously bogus speedo is not good evidence they are capable of doing so.
I guess I cant argue with you there, all I know is I had my M3 going pretty damn fast on several occaisions and my speedometer read over 170 mph.
 
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