Can the 996 Turbo handle like a GT3?
#286
I agree, but I also think the GT3 crowd is overstating the case that it can keep up on a "tight" track. Assuming a bit of engine work on a turbo and 150 to 200 more hp, it gains a HUGE advantage anywhere you can use the power coming out of turns. For example, between T1 and T3 at VIR, the short straight before T4, the short straight at VIR before the esses, the really short straight after T10, between T3 and T5 at Road Atlanta, etc. I can't think of a track without some straights, and the turbo advantage on even the smallest straight is significant.
With 200+ more hp, a turbo just swallows the GT3 whole anywhere you can use the throttle.
With 200+ more hp, a turbo just swallows the GT3 whole anywhere you can use the throttle.
The GT3 actually has a a better advantage on tracks with long sweeping turns (a lot of them). It turns in better, pushes less and can carry more speed do to it's lighter weight. The long sweeping turns are the equalizer because you are turning for a long time and can't use all of the power during that time, so the more precise steering car will have the advantage. On the contrary, slow sharp turns mean you need torque to get out of them and that actually helps the Turbo's.
I think a place like Roebling Road would be hard for a Turbo to match the GT3. It's ALL long sweepers. But you can still make up at least a second on the straights.
#288
wow, that is all I can say. What a beast.
#289
Don't ignore me Drew
#290
No reason we can't all be there. It's a good little drive for all three of us so let's plan wisely and make it work. If I'm not close enough I'll be back once my car is in kill mode for NASA. Still have 100-150 more lbs to shed and 80-100 whp to gain.
We definitely need to plan a trip to the Glen/Road America/Mid Ohio or something for next year. Maybe even a west coast trip, I already have a group in Atlanta ready to go. Laguna or Miller. What's up???
We also have Atlanta Motorsports Park under construction, so if you guys planned to come spend a week or at least some days in Atlanta we could run AMP during the week as I know enough members to get us in and then run Road Atlanta on the weekend.
We've been slacking on the group trips, need to get it going again.
We definitely need to plan a trip to the Glen/Road America/Mid Ohio or something for next year. Maybe even a west coast trip, I already have a group in Atlanta ready to go. Laguna or Miller. What's up???
We also have Atlanta Motorsports Park under construction, so if you guys planned to come spend a week or at least some days in Atlanta we could run AMP during the week as I know enough members to get us in and then run Road Atlanta on the weekend.
We've been slacking on the group trips, need to get it going again.
#291
No reason we can't all be there. It's a good little drive for all three of us so let's plan wisely and make it work. If I'm not close enough I'll be back once my car is in kill mode for NASA. Still have 100-150 more lbs to shed and 80-100 whp to gain.
We definitely need to plan a trip to the Glen/Road America/Mid Ohio or something for next year. Maybe even a west coast trip, I already have a group in Atlanta ready to go. Laguna or Miller. What's up???
We also have Atlanta Motorsports Park under construction, so if you guys planned to come spend a week or at least some days in Atlanta we could run AMP during the week as I know enough members to get us in and then run Road Atlanta on the weekend.
We've been slacking on the group trips, need to get it going again.
We definitely need to plan a trip to the Glen/Road America/Mid Ohio or something for next year. Maybe even a west coast trip, I already have a group in Atlanta ready to go. Laguna or Miller. What's up???
We also have Atlanta Motorsports Park under construction, so if you guys planned to come spend a week or at least some days in Atlanta we could run AMP during the week as I know enough members to get us in and then run Road Atlanta on the weekend.
We've been slacking on the group trips, need to get it going again.
#292
Come to Laguna... Plenty of fun stuff to do in Northern California. Plus as well as Laguna, we have Sears Point/Infineon (REALLY technical track, tons of elevation changes and challenging) and Thunderhill Raceway (with a 3/4 mile front straight).. Plus, plenty of Porsche GT3, GT2 and TT owners around here to show you some fun back roads...You guys would have a blast.
Yeah they would the 31st at laguna right ? I'm on the waitlist but regardless i'm going to hang out.
I'm thinking i need a trailer to my car to thill on the 4th. I have 600 miles before my warranty expires, and I have 2 repairs that need to be done, as they are booked untill weds of next week.
#293
Yeah they would the 31st at laguna right ? I'm on the waitlist but regardless i'm going to hang out.
I'm thinking i need a trailer to my car to thill on the 4th. I have 600 miles before my warranty expires, and I have 2 repairs that need to be done, as they are booked untill weds of next week.
I'm thinking i need a trailer to my car to thill on the 4th. I have 600 miles before my warranty expires, and I have 2 repairs that need to be done, as they are booked untill weds of next week.
I think the recent tweaks to my Car will pay dividends.. Hoping to set some all time personal best Lap Times if the track temperature is decent...
#295
Oh no you don't. If I come to the Glen you guys have to come to Road Atlanta. I'm down for that, but I want it in writing.....
Watkins Glen is 14 hours for us on mapquest. (So round up to 12 hrs )
#296
Come to Laguna... Plenty of fun stuff to do in Northern California. Plus as well as Laguna, we have Sears Point/Infineon (REALLY technical track, tons of elevation changes and challenging) and Thunderhill Raceway (with a 3/4 mile front straight).. Plus, plenty of Porsche GT3, GT2 and TT owners around here to show you some fun back roads...You guys would have a blast.
#297
No reason we can't all be there. It's a good little drive for all three of us so let's plan wisely and make it work. If I'm not close enough I'll be back once my car is in kill mode for NASA. Still have 100-150 more lbs to shed and 80-100 whp to gain.
We definitely need to plan a trip to the Glen/Road America/Mid Ohio or something for next year. Maybe even a west coast trip, I already have a group in Atlanta ready to go. Laguna or Miller. What's up???
We also have Atlanta Motorsports Park under construction, so if you guys planned to come spend a week or at least some days in Atlanta we could run AMP during the week as I know enough members to get us in and then run Road Atlanta on the weekend.
We've been slacking on the group trips, need to get it going again.
We definitely need to plan a trip to the Glen/Road America/Mid Ohio or something for next year. Maybe even a west coast trip, I already have a group in Atlanta ready to go. Laguna or Miller. What's up???
We also have Atlanta Motorsports Park under construction, so if you guys planned to come spend a week or at least some days in Atlanta we could run AMP during the week as I know enough members to get us in and then run Road Atlanta on the weekend.
We've been slacking on the group trips, need to get it going again.
GOOD, thought you were getting a little scurred for a sec jk
I would LOVE to visit Road Atlanta, I haven't been there yet!!!!!!!
#298
I dont mind road atlanta but given the total cost for me I would probably end up renting again...
That said, I can easily settle martin up here, and you at vir, thats of course unless you both want to go home sad...I mean, misery does love company
lol, too much fun.
That said, I can easily settle martin up here, and you at vir, thats of course unless you both want to go home sad...I mean, misery does love company
lol, too much fun.
#299
I don't want to hear that, you guys have room and board better than any hotel out here waiting for you in Atlanta and under 10 minutes to the track. Guaranteed your overall cost will be less than any other track. Then I can beat you down at Road Atlanta, and then bring you back and let my Wife's good cookin soothe the damaged ego.........
HEHE
You don't want to see me at Road A. Let's put that fancy jig to the test.
You know what, after we find a place for me to mop you guys up this year how about we meet at a neutral track next year and see what's up. Road America anyone? Mid-ohio? Somewhere none of us have been. And see who's boss.
HEHE
You don't want to see me at Road A. Let's put that fancy jig to the test.
You know what, after we find a place for me to mop you guys up this year how about we meet at a neutral track next year and see what's up. Road America anyone? Mid-ohio? Somewhere none of us have been. And see who's boss.
Last edited by heavychevy; 05-27-2010 at 12:46 AM.
#300
BTW I want you at VIR !!!!!!!!!!!
I don't want to hear that, you guys have room and board better than any hotel out here waiting for you in Atlanta and under 10 minutes to the track. Guaranteed your overall cost will be less than any other track. Then I can beat you down at Road Atlanta, and then bring you back and let my Wife's good cookin soothe the damaged ego.........
HEHE
You don't want to see me at Road A. Let's put that fancy jig to the test.
You know what, after we find a place for me to mop you guys up this year how about we meet at a neutral track next year and see what's up. Road America anyone? Mid-ohio? Somewhere none of us have been. And see who's boss.
HEHE
You don't want to see me at Road A. Let's put that fancy jig to the test.
You know what, after we find a place for me to mop you guys up this year how about we meet at a neutral track next year and see what's up. Road America anyone? Mid-ohio? Somewhere none of us have been. And see who's boss.
Let's set it up, can we get 3 days out there?
And a neutral track would be an awesome idea.. Mid Ohio sounds good, Road America or even Roebling Road that D Hinkle rents out??