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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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What should I prepare for with an exhaust swap?

I just picked up a Europipe Stage 1 which is en route to me. Unfortunately, there is no Porsche dealership located close to where I will be, so I need to have an independent shop install it.

What nuts/bolts/etc should I purchase as a backup? The last thing I want to happen is for them to mess something up and not have a spare of the right part
 
Old Jul 17, 2013 | 12:13 AM
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Best way to avoid that is do it yourself! It may seem intimidating, but it's really not that difficult! I didn't need any spare parts, just soak the bolts well the night before, remove the rear bumper and heat shield, and you have plenty of room to work. Good DIY's on a search. Good Luck!
 
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Best way to avoid that is do it yourself! It may seem intimidating, but it's really not that difficult! I didn't need any spare parts, just soak the bolts well the night before, remove the rear bumper and heat shield, and you have plenty of room to work. Good DIY's on a search. Good Luck!
Unfortunately that isn't an option for me. I live in Canada but am having this exhaust shipped to the US, so I have to drive down and have someone down there install it for me.
 
Old Jul 17, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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Then, I would ask the Indy about his experience with exhaust installations, his thoughts on Europipe (does he know who they are), and what parts he plans on changing during the swap.
 
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Sorry to say,,Be warned that you could have very bad rusted nuts and a studs could break then...Make sure installer has a few around...
Also be prepared for a more pleasurable car when it is done..
Good Luck and Enjoy..
 
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Could you guys let me know what spare nuts and such to buy? I doubt this shop will have the right ones for this car
 
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I would also recommend getting a set up studs. I wish I had then when I first installed my exhaust. I've since ordered a set of stainless with brass nuts for the next time.
 
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Unfortunately that isn't an option for me. I live in Canada but am having this exhaust shipped to the US, so I have to drive down and have someone down there install it for me.
Be careful with having something like this done in the US on a Canadian registered car. If the Canada Customs Officer is in a bad mood, even if you do declare the work, he can charge you duty on the value of the entire car if he so wishes. If you don't declare it and they find out (don't pay for any of it by credit card) then they have 3 choices. Seize the car, charge duty on the entire car, charge duty on the work done. Apparently you have to get a permit from Canada Customs (never heard of anyone getting it though) to have anything other than "emergency repair to get home work" done on a vehicle in the US.

One of the Porsche owners up here in Vancouver found this out the hard way! A so called friend called Customs and reported he'd had repair work done in the US.
 
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The factory nuts are made of some kind of metal that is meant to deform when torqued and essentially lock onto the studs. When I took mine off, the center of the nut was actually oval shaped. With a little bit of rust, they can become extremely difficult to get off and you have a tight area to work on the top 4. Pre-soaking for 24hrs with PB blaster will help. In some cases, the stud will back out before the nut breaks loose, so you need to replace those studs. In my opinion, your fine with replacing with just any high quality stud or bolt from the local hardware store instead of paying for the expensive Porsche part numbers.
 
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Don't forget to order new seals for the turbo to cat flange. They are metal rings. Pelican Parts has them. When it is installed, make sure the tech uses some form of high temp thread lubricant like anti-seize on the bolts or studs.
 
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Don't forget to order new seals for the turbo to cat flange. They are metal rings. Pelican Parts has them. When it is installed, make sure the tech uses some form of high temp thread lubricant like anti-seize on the bolts or studs.
Good advice. I use Permatex gray as well for added insurance.
 
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I just installed an exhaust myself the other week and, as others have said, it is very straightforward.

I ran into the common problems- seized bolts (soak in PB blaster overnight and use ratcheting wrenches for the top bolts), rough O2 sensor threads on new (to me) exhaust (use an O2 thread chaser or tap), and a bit of difficulty getting the straps off (search on here for pics of how the straps go around the brackets).

I also replaced all 8 of the nuts due to rust (ordered from dealer). I reused the metal ring gaskets and have no issues with leaks. I would have replaced them though if they looked deformed or if there was not a very good fit with the new exhaust. Good luck.
 
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This should be straight forward for the installer. Just need to soak a few hex nuts (PB Blaster is a great idea). The gaskets (x2, between turbo & cat flange) are 996-111-217-70-M17. There are various hex nuts, washers and hex bolts you can replace too.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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I get the BCP Customs concern, but really, how could any agent have any idea of what you did while down in the States? You'd literally have to tell him/her. Unless you are bringing back the original in the car...
 
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You can reuse the metal ring several times,,as I have,,we no leaks..
You can get those nuts and studs at any good hardware store....
 


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