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Old 10-04-2015, 09:21 AM
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New clutch

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I'm in need of a new clutch for my tt and I was wondering what clutch to buy and where to buy it.

I'm currently in a tuned car so I'm looking for something stronger then OEM.

I want the car do be drivable in dailylife, so no on/off clutch

In the pricerange I'm looking for under 2000$?


FVD has dealer in Norway, prices outside Norway are most likely +27% VAT

I got a price from the local Porsche workshop, and they wanted 2500$ to change it. That NOT including parts.
 
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:31 AM
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how much power are you making? an oem sachs with a gt2 disc will handle 550rwhp and a bit more easily. thats'a about a grand USD. maybe 1100 if they've gone up in price, and what hasn't.
 
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Old 10-04-2015, 10:09 AM
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That should probobly do it.
Is it any point on installing a clutch that can handle 800hp? Will i wear out slower?
 
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it all depends on your driving style. a 1000 ft/lb clutch won't last if you have a habit of driving with your foot on the clutch peddle or drag the clutch at lights. if your power level won't increase then a sachs will likely work
 
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:11 AM
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exactly right, or the consideration of future power goals has to factor. in which case it might well be better to go at least next level up to sachs 2.5, if added power above 575whp is in your future. but also explaining why my clutch could well outlive me since i'm not adding anything that'll affect my clutch usage! i dont slip it, i dbl clutch when possible ( old habits die hard ) and use it to shift, very smoothly.

though i'm reluctant to even say things like that in here. things change so quickly, vis a vis members here one day, and gone the next.
 
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labor for a clutch should be no more than $1000, if everything goes smooth, maybe 1200. takes entire day to do it. better find some good indy shop that does work on Porsche's. Local dealer will drain your wallet.

I'm on Fx250 Clutchmaster with CM light flywheel clutch was like $2000 and flywheel $1000, something like that
(if you dont mind chatter sound and whine), I do not recommend for daily commute. because that sucker grabs lol.

stay away from OEM clutch. like krazy said, get a clutch that fits you, if you drag or road race. we have so many threads here.
 

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labor for a clutch should be no more than $1000, if everything goes smooth, maybe 1200. takes entire day to do it. .

3-4 hours tops! or someone is taking a siesta on your dime(s)! lol

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"stay away from OEM clutch?!" like krazy said, get a clutch that fits you, if you drag or road race. we have so many threads here.
an oem sachs clutch w gt2 disc for a grand plus the added 50 bucks over the stock disc vs gt2 pushes the grand total to a whopping 1200 max. dragging the line, ok sure, I get it. just what the cars were made for ( rolleyes )


what is your objection to using an oem sachs with a gt2 disc? i'm btw 575/600 rwhp rwd. no slippage ever.


folks underestimate the capacity of oem parts, all the time.
 
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'02996ttx50, so you are currently running oem sachs clutch + gt2 disc?

Is this a straight swap with nothing else needed? How long have you been running that combo? Do you have the part numbers handy by chance??

Thanks!!
 
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about two years now. same as was in before. but I'm not hard on a clutch. i use it to shift gears only, and I'm not trying to be "cute". i learned early on a clutch was not be slipped and i don't believe in drag racing or "launching", as i find it borders on sacrilege. it's a porsche. not a corvette, camaro or 427 cobra.

i have an oem replacement clutch ( search pelican parts for oem sachs and the gt2 disc ) with a gt2 disc is all, and i have 575/600 rwhp. no issues. no muss no fuss though the clutch fork is just as much a pita to re-install no matter what one uses lol

cost me about a grand maybe 1100? plus 3 hours labor not counting 3 attempts to get the clutch fork to line up ( arghh lol )
 
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
about two years now. same as was in before. but I'm not hard on a clutch. i use it to shift gears only, and I'm not trying to be "cute". i learned early on a clutch was not be slipped and i don't believe in drag racing or "launching", as i find it borders on sacrilege. it's a porsche. not a corvette, camaro or 427 cobra.

i have an oem replacement clutch ( search pelican parts for oem sachs and the gt2 disc ) with a gt2 disc is all, and i have 575/600 rwhp. no issues. no muss no fuss though the clutch fork is just as much a pita to re-install no matter what one uses lol

cost me about a grand maybe 1100? plus 3 hours labor not counting 3 attempts to get the clutch fork to line up ( arghh lol )
600 rwhp on CA 91, and K16 hybrids? Do you have injectors to support that kind of power?
 
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OP, I have read lots of good things about this kit:

http://www.sachsperformance.com/Sachs-Performance-Clutch-Powerclutch/Porsche/Porsche-911-993-10-93-09-97/3-6-Carrera-4-200-kW-;-07/1994-08/1995/SRE-Performance-Clutch-Kit-Pro::193.html?XTCsid=dias6mp8g1ka8r337jvgc60jt6
 
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600 rwhp on CA 91, and K16 hybrids? Do you have injectors to support that kind of power?
no. 16/24's and a 5 bar. I'm sure I'm closer to 575 rwhp, but i vacillate btw estimating it at 575-600whp depending upon how much I've had to drink.
 
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The OEM GT2 disc is the same exact organic friction material as the stock 996TT disc, except that the TT disc has a sprung hub while the GT2 is solid. The OEM pressure plate is the same for both TT/GT2. As such, the OEM GT2 clutch package will hold the same amount of torque as the stock TT clutch and should not be considered an upgrade.

If you want an upgrade, get the Sachs 764 Motorsport pressure plate with a clutch disc appropriate to the flywheel you're using. If you're running a LWFW, get the OEM GT3RS 4.0 disc. I have this and it holds 670 ft.lbs of torque at the wheels (verified on a Dynojet). Torque, not HP is what you need to be concerned with.
 

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well, that's contrary to the guys that have steered this car and it's components since it's been around, as i was told the gt2 disc is "tougher" for lack of a better term and would suit my needs.. all i know is i've never had an issue with it, but as i've said, i don't "abuse" it. i also figured if it was good enough for the gt2, it is and has been good enough for me.

must be a terrific solid hub.
 
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
well, that's contrary to the guys that have steered this car and it's components since it's been around, as i was told the gt2 disc is "tougher" for lack of a better term and would suit my needs.. all i know is i've never had an issue with it, but as i've said, i don't "abuse" it. i also figured if it was good enough for the gt2, it is and has been good enough for me.

must be a terrific solid hub.
These clutches will hold a decent amount when not abused. Yes, the GT2 disc is "tougher" due to the fact that it has a solid hub as opposed to the more "fragile", if you will, sprung hub of the TT disc. This is why most everyone will recommend a solid disc for a high HP car with a DMFW. The GT2 disc is also a little bit lighter which gives it less inertia compared to the TT disc. The difference is minuscule compared to a LWFW but it's worth mentioning. You do not want to use the GT2 disc with a LWFW, only the DMFW. As such the GT2 disc is a tougher lighter option to the TT disc which goes with the more sporting character of the GT2. As far as holding power, unless you are running a a sintered race disc, the differences are negligible in all the organic lined discs. The pressure plate and it's clamp force is what will determine the amount of torque a clutch will hold. If you are looking to upgrade your clutch it does not make sense to leave the stock PP in place as that is where your "upgrade" lies for the most part... With Sachs, your options are the OEM TT/GT2 PP, the Sachs Motorsport 752 or 764PP, or the bolted Sachs 487PP (only for LWFW). The 752 is the lighter cousin to the 764. The 764 will give you the stiffest effort pedal but it's still not a big deal especially if the TT accumulator assist is in place. Hope that helps...
 

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