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Originally posted by cjv
Lou,
My latest dyno run was 626.4 rwhp/602.4 rwt without nitrous. Maximum hp was achieved at 7380 and maximum torque @ 4400 rpm's. The boost used was 1.2 bar. The car is equiped with a Greedy Adaptive Boost Controller which can be instantly adjusted at a push of a button from 0 to 1.7 bar. The motor is capable of producing the 1.7 bar. My current problem is at 1.2 bar I can't deliver enough fuel. It is running lean. The new RC Engineering 72 pound injectors are due to arrive around the first of the year. Things will be kind of quiet until then.
Lou,
My latest dyno run was 626.4 rwhp/602.4 rwt without nitrous. Maximum hp was achieved at 7380 and maximum torque @ 4400 rpm's. The boost used was 1.2 bar. The car is equiped with a Greedy Adaptive Boost Controller which can be instantly adjusted at a push of a button from 0 to 1.7 bar. The motor is capable of producing the 1.7 bar. My current problem is at 1.2 bar I can't deliver enough fuel. It is running lean. The new RC Engineering 72 pound injectors are due to arrive around the first of the year. Things will be kind of quiet until then.
You should have come.
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Like I said before, one of the reasons I did not attend was because it was held on GIAC's dyno. I have already stated my prior experience with GIAC. Thanks but no thanks. There will be other opportunities to demonstrate.
Jeff, I believe your signature shows how you are tied in with GIAC. I understand.
Jeff, I believe your signature shows how you are tied in with GIAC. I understand.
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Originally posted by cjv
Like I said before, one of the reasons I did not attend was because it was held on GIAC's dyno. I have already stated my prior experience with GIAC. Thanks but no thanks. There will be other opportunities to demonstrate.
Jeff, I believe your signature shows how you are tied in with GIAC. I understand.
Like I said before, one of the reasons I did not attend was because it was held on GIAC's dyno. I have already stated my prior experience with GIAC. Thanks but no thanks. There will be other opportunities to demonstrate.
Jeff, I believe your signature shows how you are tied in with GIAC. I understand.
I think my point is that how often are most of the tuners in one place. My affiliations have nothing to do with this. And since you didn't choose to attend you should have little to say.Jeff
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Well Jeff, if that was the case 99% of these ten thousand posts shouldn't be here either. 
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"I think my point is that how often are most of the tuners in one place."
Do you really consider that participation "most of the tuners?" I think you again answered you own question as to why no European Tuners participated. Obviously, they are not even part of most of the tuners.
Nah, your impartiality has nothing to do with it at all.
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"I think my point is that how often are most of the tuners in one place."
Do you really consider that participation "most of the tuners?" I think you again answered you own question as to why no European Tuners participated. Obviously, they are not even part of most of the tuners.
Nah, your impartiality has nothing to do with it at all.
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Originally posted by cjv
Well Jeff, if that was the case 99% of these ten thousand posts shouldn't be here either.
Well Jeff, if that was the case 99% of these ten thousand posts shouldn't be here either.
#2 Part of me is not sure...
Perhaps you should call it and let me know.
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Jeff,
You made the statement, "And since you didn't choose to attend you should have little to say." Since most of the people posting on this thread did not attend, then following your logic, they should have little to say also.
Sorry, I don't agree with your logic.
You made the statement, "And since you didn't choose to attend you should have little to say." Since most of the people posting on this thread did not attend, then following your logic, they should have little to say also.
Sorry, I don't agree with your logic.
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Originally posted by cjv
Jeff,
You made the statement, "And since you didn't choose to attend you should have little to say." Since most of the people posting on this thread did not attend, then following your logic, they should have little to say also.
Sorry, I don't agree with your logic.
Jeff,
You made the statement, "And since you didn't choose to attend you should have little to say." Since most of the people posting on this thread did not attend, then following your logic, they should have little to say also.
Sorry, I don't agree with your logic.
It is OK not to agree with me. We are all entitled to whatever we choose to believe.
My point is that you had a choice to attend and show everyone how much better your setup is. And you did not. Does that mean you can still talk everyone else down? I am sure that if you asked anyone who attended they would likely say that everyone gave it a good shot. No disrespect to your acheivements as they look substantial, but I feel that all of the competitors regardless of the outcome deserve our respect for having the ***** to show all the non-participants to critique them how they stack up.
Am I misreading this? I am new to this forum and just want to make a useful contribution.
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Jeff,
I happen to agree with most of what you are saying. I don't believe I have "talked anyone down." The only one mentioned in this thread was GAIC. I have not "talked down their product." Matter of fact I believe they have a good product. If I didn't like their product, why would I have offered to pay for their help on a certain problem? The fact still remains I did not appreciate one bit the way I was treated when I asked for help. I simply stated the reason I did not attend the event was because part of the event was held at their facility on their dyno. I believe their past actions justified my refusal to participate. Again nothing to do with their product, it has everything to do with the way I was treated.
I happen to agree with most of what you are saying. I don't believe I have "talked anyone down." The only one mentioned in this thread was GAIC. I have not "talked down their product." Matter of fact I believe they have a good product. If I didn't like their product, why would I have offered to pay for their help on a certain problem? The fact still remains I did not appreciate one bit the way I was treated when I asked for help. I simply stated the reason I did not attend the event was because part of the event was held at their facility on their dyno. I believe their past actions justified my refusal to participate. Again nothing to do with their product, it has everything to do with the way I was treated.
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Originally posted by cjv
Jeff,
I happen to agree with most of what you are saying. I don't believe I have "talked anyone down." The only one mentioned in this thread was GAIC. I have not "talked down their product." Matter of fact I believe they have a good product. If I didn't like their product, why would I have offered to pay for their help on a certain problem? The fact still remains I did not appreciate one bit the way I was treated when I asked for help. I simply stated the reason I did not attend the event was because part of the event was held at their facility on their dyno. I believe their past actions justified my refusal to participate. Again nothing to do with their product, it has everything to do with the way I was treated.
Jeff,
I happen to agree with most of what you are saying. I don't believe I have "talked anyone down." The only one mentioned in this thread was GAIC. I have not "talked down their product." Matter of fact I believe they have a good product. If I didn't like their product, why would I have offered to pay for their help on a certain problem? The fact still remains I did not appreciate one bit the way I was treated when I asked for help. I simply stated the reason I did not attend the event was because part of the event was held at their facility on their dyno. I believe their past actions justified my refusal to participate. Again nothing to do with their product, it has everything to do with the way I was treated.
If that is all there is to this perhaps I have overreacted.
Sorry you did not feel that you were treated well. Feel free to call me if you have any needs and perhaps I can help.
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Quote J Moss
"Feel free to call me if you have any needs and perhaps I can help."
Nothing was personel. My comments were intented to be constructive. Oh yes, thanks for the offer. I will give you a call tomorrow (providing I don't forget).
"Feel free to call me if you have any needs and perhaps I can help."
Nothing was personel. My comments were intented to be constructive. Oh yes, thanks for the offer. I will give you a call tomorrow (providing I don't forget).
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Thank you.
I hope that clears up some doubts that people obviously have about my and Wilber's credibility. He and I have worked with Protomotive in refining this car to this point.
IMHO, Wilber is one of the best mod concept/design guys around and Protomotive is one of the best software and engineering companies-- that's what I've been trying to tell you guys for months. I hope you believe me now.
I hope that clears up some doubts that people obviously have about my and Wilber's credibility. He and I have worked with Protomotive in refining this car to this point.
IMHO, Wilber is one of the best mod concept/design guys around and Protomotive is one of the best software and engineering companies-- that's what I've been trying to tell you guys for months. I hope you believe me now.
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