Hamann, I said you da man. Any doubts? The S Car Go #2 car which was at the shootout is currently about a second and a half slower than their #1 car in the quarter mile on MPSC's. I believe the #2 car only recorded a 133 mph trap speed at the little get together.

 

CJV reaction time doesn't affect E.T. anyway, why would you want it factored in? You could sit at the lights for a minute after they go green, it will not add a minute to your E.T.

 

sticky,

You may have taught me something. If so can you explain something else to me. When you pull up to the staging lights, there is a zone where the car can move either way without fouling the lights. How then does it accurately determine reaction time. I am looking for an explanation so I can understand.

 

Chad, you mean there is a ZONE where the car can NOT move either way without fouling the lights.

Also, 60' time affects E.T.

RS

 

Shank, thanks for the correction. You are correct. I was using the wrong terms. Confusing reaction time with the 0-60 foot time.

 

That's just the pre-stage and the stageing area. You pull up to the first line and one orange light goes off. Creeep up a little more (a few inches) and then the second one comes on and you're all set. Some popel creep back a little to "deep stage". After that it's the same 'ol lights. Truth be told cutting a good light is great but once it goes green you can sit there for 5minutes and it won't affect your time. Clock starts when the car moves...

 

I'm sorry... but I was expecting better performance from the S Car Go #2 car.

Perhaps this is why Alex had the car towed to Protomotive at the conclusion of the event?

I do not believe that the S Car Go car hit 133mph in the trap. That would be faster than my car, which I know is not the case.

Also, if you are running 1.5seconds faster than Alex's car, you should be in low 10's or high 9's. We'll see if you can do that, especially without the aid of giggle gas.

I am not sure if I will be participating in future Shootout events. I think Wilber and Protomotive have already proven themselves, and now it's time to do REAL events like Open Road Racing!

 

To help with the confussion or maybe add to it, heres a $.10 explanation on how that stuff works. If you're staging for the fastest time and speed, you want to stay as far behind the trigger beam as possible. When the light goes green, the reaction time starts and messures the time it takes to trip the beam. So, the further behind the beam (all things equal) the slower your reaction time will be. However, the reason you do this is because the cars time doesn't start until you trip the beam. So, if you can hit that beam at 4 mph (opposed to 0 mph) you may have a slower reaction time but a faster top speed if you have equal hole shots.

There's a whole bunch more to drag racing than most think. If you're going to focus on 1/4 mile racing, it would really be worth while to take some pro drag racing classes. If Pro drivers are on the list for the next time then maybe it would be well worth it to have a pro roadrace driver for the road racing and then a Pro Drag race driver make 2 or 3 passes with each car at a real drag strip for the 1/4 mile stuff. Believe me, you would see a difference in the times.

There's also a whole other part about laying down rubber and which BRAND (believe it or not) of rubber. Tenths of seconds either way. It goes on and on

 

The Stage 5 car dyno run has been posted check the RED BEAST DYNO thread.

Also I found it interesting as well that Alex's SCARGO car was in fact on a trailer heading to Todd at Protomotive to fix it I think was the term Todd mentioned to me. I told him the first thing I woiuld do is rip all that stupid NOS off and he said in fact that would be the first thing he will do.

Just my humble opinion of course but I don't think NOS belongs on a tt. Maybe to cool the intake like Sharky's car but not in the internals.

 

Hamann,

I was corrected at S Car Go's shop party. They only recorded 131 mph quarter mile top speed at the shootout.

Quote Hamann:
"Also, if you are running 1.5 seconds faster than Alex's car, you should be in low 10's or high 9's."

Hamann, you are close on both numbers. Without NOS and with. I really wish I could compare my dyno numbers with your numbers. The difference in acceleration might only be my tire width and the gearing advantages. What bar boost were you running for the shootout.

 

I didn't see Alex's car running 131 in the trap... I could have sworn it was lower... but I guess we will see when the results come out.

According to Protomotive, my car should be trapping in the mid 130's. Oh well.

BTW, I am only running 1.2 bar!

 

131 will not show up in the magazine article for the SCARGO car because it was done after he already had 4 timed runs. Just like my 586 hp will not show because it was done the day before.

 

That's what I thought. When I asked who had the highest mph of the day, the winner was the Red Beast

 

Hamann,

I have no doubt your car would run faster than it did. Then again, it was your decision to limit your boost to 1.2 bar. With your turbo's you could have easily picked up another 30 hp for each tenth of a bar you added. I do understand your concern for your rods.

 

Actually, if Cort had done a couple of more timed runs, I think it could have done better.

We limited it to 1.2 bar because already the clutch was having issues with the torque being produced. And my clutch is from Porsche Motorsports (993GT2 race clutch assembly).

Also, I stressed to Protomotive that I did NOT want the car tweaked to the point where it would risk damage. I would rather lose a dyno test than lose a rod or engine. Obviously, even in its mild form, it's still not bad.

During the shootout, the car ran like a champ with absolutely no problems. Like I said before, only tuning we did was changing tire pressures.