996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

The 996TT is a HORRIBLE drag racing car!!

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 01TT
I'd think it would be almost guaranteed... Not only is the GT2 lighter, but with the same mods wouldn't it put down more power to the wheels due to less driveline loss?
I have never seen a GT2 put down better times than a 996tt.
 
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Hard to launch because too much throttle=severe wheel hop and too little throttle=bogging.
Strange ............ KA doesn't seem to have this problem. But I'll have to agree, they were not designed to be the ultimate drag vehicle.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 01TT
Uh, he didn't ask which of the two cars holds the record for the quickest time at the strip... He asked if a GT2 would have higher traps than the AWD 996TT with the same weight, mods, and driver. The answer is YES.
I don't believe I have ever seen a 996tt and GT2 with with equal weight, mods let alone driver run ............... have you?
 

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Why pull the MAF, there is a larger MAF available and it works rather well.
Because you will still have the PSM pulling power away, even if it is switched off. It's never "really" off.
 
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Excuse me. I believe your information is not correct.
How so?????
 
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Originally Posted by 01TT
No, so how could you say the 996TT puts down better "times" than the GT2 with equal mods, weight, and the same driver? He was asking about trap speeds BTW. My answer of the GT2 having faster traps was based on the fact that the GT2 will always be lighter and have less driveline loss, thus the trap speeds will be higher with all else equal. But then again he said "equal weight" which is odd... did he mean add some weight back into the GT2 to make it equal to the 996TT's weight? Or did he mean with both cars in their stock weight as they come from the factory (i.e. no weight reduction for either car, same amount of fuel, etc.)
Have the 996tt gutted to have equal wt. of GT2
 
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Because you will still have the PSM pulling power away, even if it is switched off. It's never "really" off.
Not true. My throttle body does not shut down on PSM command.
 
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Originally Posted by 01TT
No, so how could you say the 996TT puts down better "times" than the GT2 with equal mods, weight, and the same driver? He was asking about trap speeds BTW.
I never used the word equal. I said I have never seen a GT2 beat a 996tt in a straight line. When the words equal were brought up after I said that I have never seen a GT2 and a 996tt equal in the catagories mentioned ever race.
 
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Hey VRAlexander ... your video doesn't show up on any of my PC's, only the sound does. What's the deal with this?

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Originally Posted by 01TT
The guy asked which car would have higher traps with the same weight, mods, and driver: the 996TT or GT2. "Same" in this context means equal. I replied that since the GT2 is RWD and has less driveline loss than the AWD 996TT, that it would likely have higher trap speeds. You then quoted my response and said "I have never seen a GT2 put down better times than a 996tt." Not sure what this has to do with anything since the guy was asking if the trap speeds would be higher, not if one car would have quicker times than the other. Secondly, what does a broad answer like that have to do with a specific question like the one the guy asked?
Since this seems to be a play on words, I'll be more specific. In my opinion and experience if you are speaking of stock vehicles, then you have a point. If you are speaking of modded vehicles, the 996tt would have a higher trap speed as the modded GT2's I have experienced simply have not been able to place even close to the same amount of power to the ground.
 
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
It's another reason you wont see AWD cars getting 1.3 - 1.5 60' times
Sure but you will see 1.3 and 1.4 60' times. Talons have been running 8-sec passes for years, and a few are into 7's already. I dont see many valid points in your original post, a TT can run just as fast with a proper setup.

edit: ren, also on your page you have your brakes listed wrong, they are 15" Brembo GTR's, thare are no 16" brakes bud
 

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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IMHO, the 60-130 mph measurement is a much better benchmark for determining the true power and performance of a 996TT: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...553#post557553 .

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Originally Posted by Craig
IMHO, the 60-130 mph measurement is a much better benchmark for determining the true power and performance of a 996TT: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...553#post557553 .

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a long track is a true benchmark for any p-car, these cars are not intended for any type of straight line racing, people just do it because its fun. Sure a 60-130 is better suited for a 996, but when a typical single supra pulls 40 cars on your car from a roll Craig, what does that prove? nothing really
 
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Originally Posted by lithium
Sure a 60-130 is better suited for a 996, but when a typical single supra pulls 40 cars on your car from a roll Craig, what does that prove? nothing really
It hasn't happened yet, and I have run more than one single turbo Supra. Moreover, I am scheduled to run another 800+ rwhp single turbo Subra later this month, when I get my car back.

I am not doubting that a single turbo Subra, and many other cars for that matter, can me made faster than a 996TT (including mine) from 60 to 130 mph. I am simply pointing out (in the linked thread) that a 60-130 mph sprint has many advantages for 996TTs and removes many of the problems referenced in this thread that plague 996TTs in 1/4 miles runs.

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Craig, try to run a well tuned gt47 car A 800rwhp supra and a 1200+rwhp one is night and day At the end, your beast is a 996, no supra can live up to the overall level of performance and class on the street.
 


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