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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 04:17 AM
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Interesting stats:

Total sales
http://www.hv.ssf.scout.se/~anders/r.../DSC_0008.html

Lamborghini sales
http://www.hv.ssf.scout.se/~anders/r.../DSC_0011.html

And this...is too much! Jealosy at its worst.
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....&threadid=3371
 

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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Sorry for lifting the thread again, but this is quite interesting for Porsche owners as well.

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....1580#post21580

"Having bought Lamborghini and invested vast amounts of money and the best staff in facilities, tooling and new models, why would VAG allow Audi, the nominal parent of the Lambo daughter (don't worry, this is the literal translation of Germany corporate speak), to devalue the investment by selling cars which compete head on with those of the new acquisition?

The LMQ will not take on the Porsche Turbo, that is being done by the Gallardo. Porsche is, and rightly, very very worried. Sales of the 996 and Boxster are tanking (as they always do when there is no proper factory racing program), all that is underpinning their sales are the various versions of the Cayenne, designed and build for them by VAG - only assembled in Leipzig - the assembly line there even has the same equipment as the A8 assembly line, the VAG signature is there for all to see.

In Germany, at any rate, there are large numbers of Porsches being traded in on Gallardos, ask any Lambo dealer and they will make you a good deal on a used Porsche.

Now lets look at Lamborghini's future model plans, well some of them, we are expecting an off-roader (hello Cayenne) and a 4-door luxury car - sounds like Lamborghini is going after Zuffenhausen to me!

So maybe the LMQ might take on the basic C2s and C4s with a better TT competing with the new Boxster; its no coincidence that Audi is the parent of Lamborghini, is it? Although when sitting in the car, it didn't feel particularly sportive to me, rather closer to the luxury coupe as an experience.

Remember, the V10 engine is an Audi engine, it will end up in several Audis which will take chunks out of BMW and Mercedes/AMG executive express sales.

By the way, do not underestimate the Porsche Turbo interior, in Germany you can specify absolutely stunning interiors of the highest possible standards, right up there with Bentley, Aston Martin and Rolls Royce, its just that US dealers, understandably, are not all that keen on helping customers specify them, as its very easy to get it wrong without being able to mock it up first, and it requires quite a long lead time, which flies in the face of the US shopping experience which leans towards the "I want it, and I want it Now" school of gratification. So basic black it is, for the most part.

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wow!!! Never thought I'd see so much bashing on here!!! LMAO. Wondered for the first pages what allan's weird icon was...LOL
I have to add to the crowd who don't really like the newer Lambos. Just a feeling thing. I see a Diablo, and see metal sculped, tense muscle that says "wanna play with me? Better be tough!" compared to the fat Murci and overloaded Gallardo (fins and vents everywhere). I can't understand why driveability, sound insulation and comfort should be a concern when considering Lamborghini... BTW, they do have Audi (not sure 'bout vW though) parts.
I just can't find anything better looking than a plain Diablo 6.0L ... No wing, no fins and things ...

My definition of exotic is a car that's fast and wow. As simple as that.
 
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