996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
LOL i would assume alot LESS ***** considering half this board does it on public highways, street tires and any time of the day and in an uncontrolled environment LOL! But yea, running at these speeds controlled or not is no joke, scares me at the thought of a blowout or something minor that could mess EVERYTHING up!
You may be right but running at 200 and knowing when to slow down for a sweeping right hander cant be too easy. I have gone 185 in my M5 and the slightest bend in the road and the car fellt light it was floating towards the shoulder, my vette hasnt seen past 165 because I dont do that much anymore. Most never race up to 200 on the highway either, but the fact that you are racing someone in traffic makes it equally as dangerous, pick your poison I guess?

Still, that's one tempting shot of the starting line. I have to wonder how some of the TT cars keep cool going that fast for that long. I could understand a posrche doing it but most of the high hp cars I kknow have serious overheating problems when running for long times (mine included). Upgraded Radiator, Oil Cooler etc etc can only help so much.
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Chris- I wish that was my F40. It's Rick Doria's car, if you're from the SoCal area i'm sure you know him as he frequents quite a few events down here and lives in OC.
So what car do YOU drive? LOL - just messing... I couldn't resist with all the dick-swinging earlier. I half-expected Timberlake to pop up singing "Dick in a Box".

I miss SoCal man... I need to get back to San Diego ASAP.
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
You may be right but running at 200 and knowing when to slow down for a sweeping right hander cant be too easy. I have gone 185 in my M5 and the slightest bend in the road and the car fellt light it was floating towards the shoulder, my vette hasnt seen past 165 because I dont do that much anymore. Most never race up to 200 on the highway either, but the fact that you are racing someone in traffic makes it equally as dangerous, pick your poison I guess?

Still, that's one tempting shot of the starting line. I have to wonder how some of the TT cars keep cool going that fast for that long. I could understand a posrche doing it but most of the high hp cars I kknow have serious overheating problems when running for long times (mine included). Upgraded Radiator, Oil Cooler etc etc can only help so much.
Last race I did was on PS2 street radials, and in fact up to the grand touring (165+ average) you aren't allowed to run a slick of any type, tires have to be DOT rated. I wouldn't touch a nascar tire, you can't get them in wheel sizes bigger than 15 so they are useless. Think ALMS prototype if you want to run slicks But honestly on a dusty public highway it's not always the best idea. Just be sure you have a new set of tires, maybe x-ray them, balanced very well and hope for the best.

Funny you mention that, i've gone much faster on the open highways than I ever have in a race, go figure.

Getting a crazy HP car to run cool takes some work and it's not just about massive radiators and such. Proper air ducting, plus keeping it actually flowing through the engine bay is crucial. Oh and not blocking the front of the car with a huge air:air intercooler. Have to hide those air cores somewhere else and no we don't run air:water at all.

That twin turbo viper that we (it's a team event) ran last year ran just as cool as stock sitting in traffic on the strip in vegas when it was well over 100F. Just takes a little thinking outside the box and it's easy. But there are other issues, diff coolers and things that need to be looked at as well.

Vipers have it easy though, we can drop it in 6th with that .50 OD and run 200 turning a hair under 4k rpm.
 
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So what car do YOU drive? LOL - just messing... I couldn't resist with all the dick-swinging earlier. I half-expected Timberlake to pop up singing "Dick in a Box".

I miss SoCal man... I need to get back to San Diego ASAP.
speaking of such
 
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bah screw this open road business, who wants to do Gumball

VRAlex?
Markski?
LVEric?
Shank?

That would be quite an adventure to say the least. Now who can we get to sponsor us for bail money?
 
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Last race I did was on PS2 street radials, and in fact up to the grand touring (165+ average) you aren't allowed to run a slick of any type, tires have to be DOT rated. I wouldn't touch a nascar tire, you can't get them in wheel sizes bigger than 15 so they are useless. Think ALMS prototype if you want to run slicks But honestly on a dusty public highway it's not always the best idea. Just be sure you have a new set of tires, maybe x-ray them, balanced very well and hope for the best.

Funny you mention that, i've gone much faster on the open highways than I ever have in a race, go figure.

Getting a crazy HP car to run cool takes some work and it's not just about massive radiators and such. Proper air ducting, plus keeping it actually flowing through the engine bay is crucial. Oh and not blocking the front of the car with a huge air:air intercooler. Have to hide those air cores somewhere else and no we don't run air:water at all.

That twin turbo viper that we (it's a team event) ran last year ran just as cool as stock sitting in traffic on the strip in vegas when it was well over 100F. Just takes a little thinking outside the box and it's easy. But there are other issues, diff coolers and things that need to be looked at as well.

Vipers have it easy though, we can drop it in 6th with that .50 OD and run 200 turning a hair under 4k rpm.
Hmmmm..... Sounds interesting, I would be interested in knowing exactly how that's done. Are we talking about "race" cars or street cars? the viper has more room in the motor compartment but I still dont see where else you could mount and intercooler. Of course I'm no auto expert, are you using smaller duel units like the Porsche TT's. that sounds like a good idea. I'd like to know because I'm about to adjust my intercooler to give more room for air to reach my radiator pretty soon but if there are other options I'd consider those as well.
 
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Hmmmm..... Sounds interesting, I would be interested in knowing exactly how that's done. Are we talking about "race" cars or street cars? the viper has more room in the motor compartment but I still dont see where else you could mount and intercooler. Of course I'm no auto expert, are you using smaller duel units like the Porsche TT's. that sounds like a good idea. I'd like to know because I'm about to adjust my intercooler to give more room for air to reach my radiator pretty soon but if there are other options I'd consider those as well.
Nope this is all street car stuff being run on standard production cars, no crazy frame hacking what so ever. The IC's are still up front just not anywhere in the grill area to block the radiator. You can see a wee bit of them from the front of the car but thats about it. And no external body mods are required to make them work. This is all custom made stuff, nothing you can buy off the shelf and just bolt on a car.

Where we put them most will think it would never get any airflow what so ever, but you have to think outside the box a bit and use the low pressure of certain areas to pull air through them. They don't really need direct frontal airflow to work what so ever. And in testing our AITs haven't moved more than few degrees as measured going into the intake manfiold.
 
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Originally Posted by Vicious
bah screw this open road business, who wants to do Gumball

VRAlex?
Markski?
LVEric?
Shank?

That would be quite an adventure to say the least. Now who can we get to sponsor us for bail money?
My god, this is a dream of mine, too bad im not "ballin" enough to pay up for it
 
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Originally Posted by Vicious
Nope this is all street car stuff being run on standard production cars, no crazy frame hacking what so ever. The IC's are still up front just not anywhere in the grill area to block the radiator. You can see a wee bit of them from the front of the car but thats about it. And no external body mods are required to make them work. This is all custom made stuff, nothing you can buy off the shelf and just bolt on a car.

Where we put them most will think it would never get any airflow what so ever, but you have to think outside the box a bit and use the low pressure of certain areas to pull air through them. They don't really need direct frontal airflow to work what so ever. And in testing our AITs haven't moved more than few degrees as measured going into the intake manfiold.
Good stuff!!!! Where can I find out more or see smoe pics of this car? I knew it had to be custom wherever it was.
 
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My god, this is a dream of mine, too bad im not "ballin" enough to pay up for it

That makes two of us When it was only like $15grr a couple of us could probably make it happen, but last years being near $100k, %)#*(&# that.
 
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sorry I didnt read all 12 pages, just the first few and I have a few questions...

what turbo system was on that viper? heffner, underground, etc?
built motor or a stock 99 motor?
what size turbos does he have on it if you know?
how much boost was he running?
was he running 345-18 bfg dr's or what tire?

thats a sick time for such a bad launch and the mph is very nice
 
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That makes two of us When it was only like $15grr a couple of us could probably make it happen, but last years being near $100k, %)#*(&# that.
WTFFFFFFFTFTFTWTTFTF, 100 grand?!? Since when, i thought it was around 20grand

Ok, let's get everyone together, i'll remove the rollbar so i can fit 2 people in the back
 
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That makes two of us When it was only like $15grr a couple of us could probably make it happen, but last years being near $100k, %)#*(&# that.
100K each???? Not me!!!!! Just to drive, and then have to pay your own bail and tickets....... Well then what's the 100k for?
 
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i dident read all 11 pages, but Saad was huge in the supra community for a long time putting down 1K hp and running low 9's all day long... it dosent suprise me to see him spanking gt2's at the track.
 
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Last years covered something like 3 continents and such, so it paid for all the travel, vehicle transport, hotels, parties, and all that jazz.

07' says it will be $28k pounds, which is what like $56k USD? still up there. Makes for a pretty expensive trip when you're blowing $10k/day

Oh and thats driver + one pass... additional people are $12k pounds/head

So much for putting a 1200hp something in a 64' lincoln and hauling *** with 6 people in a land yacht.



I'm curious, what do you do about drivers licenses in all these crazy countries? does a US license work?
 


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