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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
LOL, thanks for the negative rep, that hurts my feelings. I should have figured you were one of the Viper Alley clowns. How is it the number one excuse for people that cant drive? Because I want to drive on a Road Course? Did I mention I have a 800 soon to be 900 rwhp corvette? You seriously dont have a clue WTH your talking about so you best shutup.

If you want to put driving skills to the test I'm ready and willing any time.
huh? I didn't neg rep you... yet, but it's a brilliant idea.

tupperware with 900hp, thats cute. So what, you might clip a high 9?

I was talking about road courses, hence why I mentioned the ACR. Where are you located? I'd be more than willing to hotlap willow or T-hill against you in either of your cars if the $$ is right. Trust me, you probably don't want to go there though.
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by joetwint
Yeah,but find me a 8sec Viper as clean as my turbo and I would certainly think about it!
Blah i dont know, i guess its just not my style. I was offered that yellow GTS TT car from the original owner Jeff here in NY, he wanted to trade me for my M3 but i said no thanks
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Well the early RT's and GTS Viper's did have such ****ty handling! BUT, they reworked them i think 96-97 on up? I was in my friend's GTS ACR 2001 wth nothing but factory Harnesses and Toyo RA1's on Limerock track.

He is a hired professional driver, the cars capability with a professional was mind blowing, the car was INSANELY fast and handled like it was on rails, to say the least i was left astonished!
Yeah the Gen 1 RT/10's were lame at best, in both suspension and HP. When the GTS came out in 96 and they reworked the RT in 97 is when they got nasty fast, up till 02.

Thats the thing, most people are too scared to ever push one anywhere near the limit. They think they are going fast when in reality the car is @ 70% and barely working hard. When you get someone behind the wheel who knows how to handle it, damn. It takes a while to get comfortable throwing the car into a corner going that fast and know it's going to stick, but there is a benefit to having 315 width front tires

As I said they are not for everyone, and not nearly as comfortable as a 996 when being daily driven. But when you want a raw, nasty, scary fast car with no hand holding electronics it's the only way to go. And yes the only people who think they don't handle well are getting man handled by the car, in which case they shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place.
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicious
huh? I didn't neg rep you... yet, but it's a brilliant idea.

tupperware with 900hp, thats cute. So what, you might clip a high 9?

I was talking about road courses, hence why I mentioned the ACR. Where are you located? I'd be more than willing to hotlap willow or T-hill against you in either of your cars if the $$ is right. Trust me, you probably don't want to go there though.
Do you even have a car? Or would you be borrowing? I'm in Atlanta, so it would have to be somewhere neutral because you would surely get owned here, I live 5 minutes away and stay there during track season.

I'm not gonna waist my time with you until you say something worth noting, if you dont have your own car, you go on the ignore list. I'm not bench racing, especially if you dont even have a car. Bring you a lightly modded Viper to Road course and see what happens.

I could have easily gotten a viper, hell, it would have been easier on the pocket book, but I decided to go with some that has more racing heritage. Viper's and their owners have a bad reputation on the track (with turns) and I'm not scared to push any car to the limits but there is a reason you dont see many vipers at track days.
 

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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Vicious
Yeah the Gen 1 RT/10's were lame at best, in both suspension and HP. When the GTS came out in 96 and they reworked the RT in 97 is when they got nasty fast, up till 02.

Thats the thing, most people are too scared to ever push one anywhere near the limit. They think they are going fast when in reality the car is @ 70% and barely working hard. When you get someone behind the wheel who knows how to handle it, damn. It takes a while to get comfortable throwing the car into a corner going that fast and know it's going to stick, but there is a benefit to having 315 width front tires

As I said they are not for everyone, and not nearly as comfortable as a 996 when being daily driven. But when you want a raw, nasty, scary fast car with no hand holding electronics it's the only way to go. And yes the only people who think they don't handle well are getting man handled by the car, in which case they shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place.
Couldnt agree more, and i hate when people go off "what they think or heard" that this and that cant handle, or w/e it might be. HeavyChevy not pointing this towards you, you seem like you know your stuff and have a MONSTER on your hands, but Viper's really can handle in the right hands. As i said, my friend took me at 8/10's he said of his car's potential because he had a passenger, and the thing was beyond insanity! With the r compounds, he just threw the damm car into and out of corners even laying on the gas, when you think the tires would give they would hop or skip a little and just GRIP GRIP GRIP, it was ridiculous!
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
I could have easily gotten a viper, hell, it would have been easier on the pocket book, but I decided to go with some that has more racing heritage. Viper's and their owners have a bad reputation on the track (with turns) and I'm not scared to push any car to the limits but there is a reason you dont see many vipers at track days.
Although its true you dont see alot on the track, they do go and have HIGH potential/capability, again, in the right hands!

When i went, it was a Viper/Aston Martin day, 20-30 Viper's from stock, na modded to supercharged were ripping it up, from old early 90 rt's to new srt coupes! They all took it easy, got a feel then went pretty fast with them. They were pretty impressive out there and their drivers too, yes i saw alot spin that day cause it was damp, but i also saw a Aston crash, 550 Maranello spin out and so on!

There was also Bob Carolls Viper Competition Coupe, that thing was RIDICULOUS and much of a handfull, he spun it lots of times!

I'll try and get some pics and videos up
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Couldnt agree more, and i hate when people go off "what they think or heard" that this and that cant handle, or w/e it might be. HeavyChevy not pointing this towards you, you seem like you know your stuff and have a MONSTER on your hands, but Viper's really can handle in the right hands. As i said, my friend took me at 8/10's he said of his car's potential because he had a passenger, and the thing was beyond insanity! With the r compounds, he just threw the damm car into and out of corners even laying on the gas, when you think the tires would give they would hop or skip a little and just GRIP GRIP GRIP, it was ridiculous!
Well I never said the Viper couldnt handle or meant anything negative about it. What my point was is that when I thought about getting a car for track duties I wanted to get a Porsche and I shouldnt get hastled over that on a PORSCHE FORUM.....

In fact my main reason for wanting another track car was to beat the new Z06 because the owners are cocky and it pisses me off. My Turbo vette started off headed towards a drag car but I started getting more into Road Racing so I switched directions. I'm now detuning it for Road Racing sessions. When I run a 10 sec 1/4 mile on street tires (non DR's) I'm fine with where my vette is, I dont like drag racing that much anyways.

I love the viper, but it's too much like the vette and I would still take a vette or porsche over it anyday for road racing.

As far as what I think or heard you can check Gary's site for yourself and see the 1700 hp viper in big letter, you can also read where it says he has something similar on the way. I have also been on viper alley checking the progress of his new ride. I dont know all the details but then again I havent tried to claim I do, I posted the little simple info that I have seen coming from the horses mouth. If that is wrong someone let me know.
 

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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Well I never said the Viper couldnt handle or anything negative about it. What my point was is that when I thought about getting a car for track duties I wanted to get a Porsche and I shouldnt get hastled over that on a PORSCHE FORUM.....

In fact my main reason for wanting another track car was to beat the new Z06 because the owners are cocky and it pisses me off. My Turbo vette started off headed towards a drag car but I started getting more into Road Racing so I switched directions. I'm now detuning it for Road Racing sessions. When I run a 10 sec 1/4 mile on street tires (non DR's) I'm fine with where my vette is, I dont like drag racing that much anyways.

I love the viper, but it's too much like the vette and I would still take a vette or porsche over it anyday for road racing.
Ok understood, and as you can see i would too
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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I love these twin turbo Vipers ... I want one!

But the horsepower claims aren't backed up by the trap speed/raceweight. Not that it matters ... those trap speeds froma street car are just insane.

Bugger! I won't be able to get the idea out of my mind now!
 
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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I love these twin turbo Vipers ... I want one!

But the horsepower claims aren't backed up by the trap speed/raceweight. Not that it matters ... those trap speeds froma street car are just insane.

Bugger! I won't be able to get the idea out of my mind now!
You and me both!I just watched that vid about 10 times!LOL
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
LOL, a little sensitive are we???? It's Gary who's foot is in his mouth if he says in HUGE LETTERS that the car makes 1700 hp. Do you want a cookie because you know Gary??? Who cares???? I could care less, I was just telling these guys that it's possible in the Viper or am I mistaken on that too?

I looked at a viper but I wanted something that likes to turn so I got a Porsche instead. Got a problem with that?
Actually on Viper Alley the drag racing leaderboard has all the details. The car claims 1,200 rwhp, not 1,700 rwhp.
 
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Actually on Viper Alley the drag racing leaderboard has all the details. The car claims 1,200 rwhp, not 1,700 rwhp.
I quoted my source who happens to be the driver of the car, www.garyjavo.com this is petty, I dont know what the car made because I didnt dyno it. Once again my only point is that 1700 hp vipers do exist.
 
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The owner of the Viper is Garth and he is a vegas local! Know him and the car very fast to be on point fastest in the world!! And the car has 1600 whp + nuts. but can't drive it! Gary's car is not even close! but i have owned a viper and they are cool but I think the tt is goin to be right there with it with in the next year. Marks car with almost 900 whp should be about equal to a viper pushing 1100. Areo has a big factor with that toy!
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
I quoted my source who happens to be the driver of the car, www.garyjavo.com this is petty, I dont know what the car made because I didnt dyno it. Once again my only point is that 1700 hp vipers do exist.
Actually the owner Jerry claims 1,400 bhp.

Ride:
2002 Dodge Viper
Engine type and displacement:
V-10 510ci
Induction:
Turbo
Tranny type:
Manual
Tires:
Slicks
Race weight:
Full Weigh
Horsepower:
1200.0
60 foot time:
1.363
1/8 Mile ET:
5.726
1/8 Mile MPH:
129.72
1/4 Mile ET:
8.751
1/4 Mile MPH:
163.42
Track Name:
Bradenton Motorsports Park
Link to Timeslip:
http://www.viperalley.com/gallery/da...ry5_Small_.jpg
 

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