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Veryon tested by Road and Track whose tt will beat it?

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 04:44 AM
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Great thread, any TT Viper guys in Vegas? I'll photograph your car in trade for a go in one
 
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheFanatic
Great thread, any TT Viper guys in Vegas? I'll photograph your car in trade for a go in one
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Come on guys, you know a Veyron will hand that thing it's *** on the highway.



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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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thanks for the kind words (thanks too Martin). just calling 'em as I see 'em

now after all that, let's see some TT's & GT2's kick Bug ***! never mind the 1/4 ET's, i'd love to see some sub 18 sec 0-300kmh times!

all respect to the big gun TT's on here, but the fastest 911 based 0-300's i've seen yet are still in the 21 second range. 800HP cars by Gemballa and 9ff... Jurgen Alzen, Bilstein, H&R and RS Tuning have just launched their "Mission 400" 997 with 1000HP, designed to go after the Bug's 252mph top speed record. i imagine that should be pretty rapid to 300kmh...

But so far, the fastest tuned cars in the 0-300kmh (documented) still seem to be the 1000HP Skylines. I'm pretty sure the TT Vipers that do well in the recent 1 mile shootouts would be mighty quick. Has anyone figured out how to derive/guestimate 0-300kmh for those?

i've little doubt that the 996TT based monsters of some 6speeders would be in the teens, even low-teens for the 0-300. so someone please go out with a VBox/AX22 and make us proud! (once the weather is better over there i suppose )
 
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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That IMO is one of the best driving all around cars i've ever been in. Bone stock long block, will run for 100k miles without any more than changing the oil/plugs once in a while. Makes 800rwhp on pump gas with a stock fuel system and could go 900 with a better fuel pump setup. Drives/runs just like stock till a hair over 3k rpm when it melts the 345's in 2nd at half throttle and on a cool night will turn 3rd over pretty solidly. One of my favorite TT cars ever and insanely smooth.
Sorry but after reading the post.. I realized this car was in Chicago... Streets of Woodfield? was that the same viper I raced? it was at night? on 53 south?
probably not but Im asking just in case....
 
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Some interesting posts here, I agree with both sides of the argument. Obviously for a factory stock car to perform like the Veryon is quite an achievement. You can for a lot less money have a Viper TT that will destroy it and probably a few of our highly tuned Porsche TT's.

I personally don't care for the looks of the Veryon and it is too heavy for my liking. I think the Saleen S7 with the 1000 hp motor which weighs nearly 2000 lbs less would put a spanking on that Bug and looks way better to me.

Anyhow who would have ever thought a major car company would produce a factory car with 1000 hp? Pretty cool!

 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Sorry but after reading the post.. I realized this car was in Chicago... Streets of Woodfield? was that the same viper I raced? it was at night? on 53 south?
probably not but Im asking just in case....
Yes that car is in Chicago and yes I (and a friend) had it out at streets a couple times. No clue if we ever raced (it would be impossible to remember everyone we did lol) but it's fairly likely we have.

Shoot me a PM if you want to figure it out.


RE: what the big vipers run a 0-300km/h. I don't have an exact time but I know it's a lot faster than 21 seconds. Considering 80-210 comes in a hair under 10 sec. 80-186 would be what 9.5 just to be fair. I can't see 0-80 being much more than 5 seconds on a VERY VERY bad launch. So I'm figuring conservatively a low 14 sec 0-300 time on street tires.
 
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I agree with Hesperus, Buddy G, and Vicious on occasion (V, loved the
quartermile vid of your buddy's "sissy red" viper). Some of these cars
are so one dimensional that it is Painful! My plans are simple,
10 second quarter mile street car that can win my class at Brainerd (will
take about a 1:50 this year), and also able to pull a 200 mph plus top speed.
Oh, did I mention my wife drives it occasionally??
If I had huge money, I would have an RT12 and a TT Viper for fun...
The Veyron is an amazing accomplishment!!

my two pennies, thats all.

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Im with Hesperus,

We have to find out what markski and VR's protomotive monsters will do 0-300kmh...
 
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Im with Hesperus,

We have to find out what markski and VR's protomotive monsters will do 0-300kmh...
When my Protomotive monster is complete, I'll do my absolute best to get a 0-300 kmh run in...but I'm not sure where I'm going to be able to do it at.

I suspect the three of us would have very similar times, so if at least one of us can get a run in...we should know the capabilities of the cars.
 
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When my Protomotive monster is complete, I'll do my absolute best to get a 0-300 kmh run in...but I'm not sure where I'm going to be able to do it at.

I suspect the three of us would have very similar times, so if at least one of us can get a run in...we should know the capabilities of the cars.
Cant wait to see this, and that's exactly where i am limited too. In NY there s NOWHERE to run at those speeds, and hardly enough to stop and launch to 100 or a 60-130, it sucks
 
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I'm planning on getting my 60-130 times while on the dragstrip. The 185 mph (300 kmh) run will be a bit more difficult to accomplish.
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Its easy to build one one purpose in mind kind of a car... one can do it to just about any platform... Heck I raced my little 2.0 liter Evo8 against a supercharged viper and he was pleasantly surprised that I got him.... yet my car only has a GT35r... I could have put in a GT42r and go all out... but that is NOT the purpose of that car...
I asked once Ryan(Shank) why he sold his Underground construction twin TT... and he said it was to much hastle... not drivable... the clutch, tires, etc... simply a pain in the ***.
I never had one so I dont know... but when u get way up there.. drivability becomes an issue- I know just from my 640 awhp Evo8. and If anyone tells me IM full of it... well get in a Evo8 with a GT42r turbo and see how long ull last driving around town... Im assuming same goes for other cars liek supras and Vipers...
I may be wrong but this is just my opinion.. opinions are relative...markski
I bought Shank's TT Viper, put an AME and PS Cups on the car (got rid of the 19/20's on pirelis). The car is completely driveable, acts stock until you put your foot in it. I have even driven the car in 38 degree weather, no problems. The car will react to your inputs, like any other machine. Stomp on the gas, sideways you will be, unless you are 100MPH or so.
 
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Plenty of tuner cars could beat it, but I would seriously doubt they could do it multiple times while running pump gas like the Veyron does, and on street tires.
 
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Plenty of tuner cars could beat it, but I would seriously doubt they could do it multiple times while running pump gas like the Veyron does, and on street tires.
not to mention be supremely comfortable for the super model girlfriend not to complain, AND get guaranteed best valet parking space at the country club.

ok, so many gearheads won't care about the parking space...

but i guess the point is that the Veyron does so many things so darn well. it may not score "100" in every single category, but it probably scores a "97" in most categories, where many tuner cars may score "100" in one, and struggle to get 70-80 in others.

and well the Bug should, for what they're charging for it!

(funny, i sound like a Bugatti nut-hugger, when really i'm not! it commands respect, but it doesn't excite me in the same way a Macca or Pagani would)
 
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Originally Posted by PorscheFanatic
Great thread, any TT Viper guys in Vegas? I'll photograph your car in trade for a go in one
I am in Vegas, let's do it.
 


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