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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
I respectfully disagree, for engine safety reasons.

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You will understand soon enough when you get your car back! There are MANY variables that would constitute changing boost settings.

You have 2 settings: Pump and Race

Lets go with Race

100 octane
101 octane
104 octane
109 octane

You will change your boost on the Greedy depending on which and what octane "Race" gas you have. You will also change boost depending on atmospheric conditions and temp!

One day you will boost 1.3 bar on Race gas at 70 degrees and the next day with same gas with a 95 degree day and other variable the same setting will produce 1.2 Bar.....
 
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Do it man! You won't regret it.

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Thanks for the pic

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Thank you
 
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Raudel!! Congrats..now i Know why i got spanked this past weekend. close to 700 crank hp is very impressive. NICE!
 
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those are good numbers, your are making with the car. I am about to do it very soon too. Got some help from marski but I somewhat hesitant because I really want to do this project but not familar with the greddy boost control and setting the actuators. Anyone know a good shop in dallas they can refer me to if I dont want to do this myself.
 
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Originally Posted by digitekkz
those are good numbers, your are making with the car. I am about to do it very soon too. Got some help from marski but I somewhat hesitant because I really want to do this project but not familar with the greddy boost control and setting the actuators. Anyone know a good shop in dallas they can refer me to if I dont want to do this myself.
If u want it done the right way go to Tulsa and see Bobby....
If not any Aftermarket tuning shop that has installed greddy boost controllers knows whast up... all u do is run a wire to the back of the car.. unhook the stock valve with 3 hoses and hook up the greddy valve in its palce... then run a positve wire the the head unit and ur done.... the settings are simple and any of us can tell u where to start at the beginning with the boost/gain values...
You dont set the actuators with the K24/18G.... they are already preset by Todd K.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Alan..i guess that explains why Raudel was running so fierce on Sunday while my tt is probably making between 510-520 2 da wheels. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by cooperlee
Raudel!! Congrats..now i Know why i got spanked this past weekend. close to 700 crank hp is very impressive. NICE!
Cooper,
I was running 1.3 bar when we ran, so realistically I was probably putting down 550-560 rwhp. When are you getting those turbos upgraded?
 
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Those numbers are awesome, my next upgrade for sure. The best part about it is that your car look's completely stock and lay's dowm some serious power, perfect combo in my book.
 
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550 still impressive for the simple setup that you have. My turbo upgrades from protomotive would probably bring the hp/tq closer to 560-580whp and a bit more with headers. decisions..decisions.... ;-O
 
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Congrats another Proto monster on the loose! I like the stock look too, my car is the same way. Can a GT2 or tt be a sleeper?
 
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Originally Posted by TonyNJ
Those numbers are awesome, my next upgrade for sure. The best part about it is that your car look's completely stock and lay's dowm some serious power, perfect combo in my book.
So... I expect to see your car back in on Monday for those turbos?
 
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So... I expect to see your car back in on Monday for those turbos?

PROBABLY!!!
 
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Originally Posted by TonyNJ
Those numbers are awesome, my next upgrade for sure. The best part about it is that your car look's completely stock and lay's dowm some serious power, perfect combo in my book.
I know it won't be long before I see your car at Protosport again. Best bang for the buck IMHO !
 
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I think some folks misunderstood what it was I was balking at in that other thread.

This is a perfect time for me to explain.

The hybrids that I feel are all hype are the K16/24 turbos. I do not believe that these turbos are any better than a standard K24. They may spool quicker, but they don't have nearly the steam up top that a K24 has. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

RCNJ's turbos are an entirely different hybrid/animal. I FULLY expected them to outperform a K24.

Not all hybrids are the devil...

What surprised/concerned me the most was the 595 figure. In our opinion the boost was entirely too high. Another intriguing thing was that this kit comes standard with an MBC. What happened to wastegate regulation via the DME?

Allowing that much adjust ability can land a tuner in hot water. That run in our opinion was unsafe. The MBC overrides the DME and prevents it from doing it's job if something goes wrong. If a wastegate line were to tear, you would not know it until it was too late. No wastegate regulation means that the turbo will spin until it can't spin no more! BOOM.

Boost should be controlled by the DME. Bottom line.

In conclusion, I was not really surprised by the numbers, I was more surprised at the method for which they were achieved.
 

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Originally Posted by Mike/A.W.E.
I think some folks misunderstood what it was I was balking at in that other thread.

This is a perfect time for me to explain.

The hybrids that I feel are all hype are the K16/24 turbos. I do not believe that these turbos are any better than a standard K24. They may spool quicker, but they don't have nearly the steam up top that a K24 has. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

RCNJ's turbos are an entirely different hybrid/animal. I FULLY expected them to outperform a K24.

Not all hybrids are the devil...

What surprised/concerned me the most was the 595 figure. In our opinion the boost was entirely too high. Another intriguing thing was that this kit comes standard with an MBC. What happened to wastegate regulation via the DME?

Allowing that much adjust ability can land a tuner in hot water. That run in our opinion was unsafe. The MBC is overrides the DME and prevents it from doing it's job if something goes wrong. If a wastegate line were to tear, you would not know it until it was too late. No wastegate regulation means that the turbo will spin until it can't spin no more! BOOM.

Boost should be controlled by the DME. Bottom line.

In conclusion, I was not really surprised by the numbers, I was more surprised at the method for which they were achieved.
It's subjective. I personally won't own a boosted car that doesn't utilize a MBC.

Different strokes....
 


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