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Powell, my above-post had nothing to do with a 9 second pass. Rob has not yet claimed to have made a 9 second pass. If he did, I would call BS on that as well. My post questioned the veracity of Rob's express claim regarding his dyno results. Someone asked Rob what his dyno graphs look like, and Rob responded (250 RWHP more than a GT700 -- over 850 RWHP). I am calling BS as to that claim. FWIW, I doubt Rob's car, in its current condition, is capable of a 9 second pass (I would put money on it). That being said, the real issue is whether Rob has been honest about his claimed dyno results (we now know he was disingenuous when he claimed his car was "finished in two weeks").

First, Todd did not build Rob's motor. Akram did. Second, your above comments say everything and nothing. Of course, a stroked motor with GT35s will "make power" (assuming the car actually runs). Again, the issue is not whether Rob's car "makes power." Rather, the issue is whether Rob's car produced the dyno graphs than Rob claims. He had described what his dyno graphs look like (250 RWHP more than a GT700 -- over 850 RWHP). I call BS as to that claim, regardless of whether Rob's car "makes power."

First, Rob has promised "official numbers" in the past, but failed to follow through. Second, and far more important, while Rob is free to delay posting dyno results for as long as he desires, once he posts a claim regarding his dyno results, he should be prepared to substantiate that claim. Had Rob remained silent about his dyno results, I would not have made my post. However, Rob did not remain silent. Instead, he claimed that his car has produced a dyno graph with 250 RWHP more than a GT700 (over 850 RWHP). Now that he has made that claim, I am calling BS and asking him to back up his claim.

Regards,

Craig

Craig,

Do you believe that it is possible for a 3.8 liter with GT35's to produce the
horspower that the good Doctor is talking about?

MK

Absolutely. I will go a step further . . . I suspect Rob's car may actually achieve his claimed results at some point in the future. However, I do not believe Rob has yet to achieve those results. Therefore, regardless of what his car is capabale of, or what results it may produce in the future, I question the veracity of what Rob has told us about his past/existing dyno results.

Marty, my suspicions regarding Rob's lack of veracity are not merely a product of Rob's failure to produce a supporting dyno graph. Rob has misled us in the past. He claimed that his car was "finished in two weeks." He made this claim as a passive agressive means of disparaging EVOMS (read his above-quoted post). However, we later discovered that Rob's car was not in fact completed in two weeks, as Rob claimed, and was not finished 2.5 months later. I heard that Rob's car did not even start when Rob claimed the "sound" was that of a "EVOMS beater" (although that is strictly hearsay). During the two months between May 18 and July 30, Rob continued to post about the tremendous performance of his self-proclaimed "beast." However, I continued to hear that Rob's car was mired with problems and was not even running. When Rob again boasted about his tremendous results, I questioned him about the problems I had heard about (I did not say anything about the rumors until Rob posted contrary info). Rob went radio silent. Again, it appears that Rob was being disingenuous. With that as a backdrop, it should be clear why I doubt Rob's current claim.

As I stated upfront, I am the first person to sympathize with the problems that can arise with a project of this nature. My project was anything but smooth sailing. If Rob had been genuine with us about the bumps in his road, instead of making disingenuous posts, I would have been the first to express my support. However, Rob choose a different path that involved what I believe to be false claims and, therefore, instead of lending my support, I am calling BS. If he proves me wrong, I will apologize and admit my error. Until then, I remain a disbeliever.

Regards,

Craig

Craig,

That was so...so...lawyerly of you.

Marty old boy, I believe that Rob's car should indeed make over 800. I have had my differences w/ Akram, but he is no doubt, at least from a technical standpoint, a very competant mechanic. And Todd is certainly one of the best.

Chris, lets get my car out w/ Robs w/ you videoing. I have no doubt that Rob will pull on me hard but would relish the run.

Fair enough,
I do not know where it is at either, and it may not be done.
We are all seeing numbers (and in some cases, actual performance to
back it up) that we never thought possible before. Heck, last weekend
when I ran 11.6 @ 122 at .8 bar I was astounded. There was a V-8
Mazda RX7, gutted with NOS that was running 11.8's and 11.9's !!
This platform we have is simply unbelievable.
I hope the good Doctor brings it to the Texas Mile.
We shall see.

Respectfully to both parties involved,

Marty

Dr. J, I have tremendous respect for what you have done with your car and your substantiated dyno results. Moreover, you have done a fine job of defending Rob's disingenuous claims in the past ( https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92147&page=2 ). However, the time has come to let Rob fend for himself. He is a big boy. Let him stand on his own two feet and speak for himself. I have heard you defend Rob. Now I want to hear Rob defend Rob.

Respectfully,

Craig

LOL...Rob has always been cool to me (once, when I wrenched my back out deadlifting he helped me out).

However, I have yet to substantiate my belief that my car will dyno 645....I am waiting for the weather to cool down a bit.

LOL, dont make me bring this out! Also there is a 4.0 liter kit, crank, rods, cams, heads and so on but at an over 45K price tag most do not opt for this. The 3.8 is a great platform.

I never really considered the other things brought up.... like "my full attention" or the other life-things (like a stereo) that might interfere with what 700WHP would cause my right FOOT to so, and since it is true that something this powerful would probably take considerable additional attention, I'll probably try to do a GT700-esque kind of package and do a bottom end (on that install date) at some point in the next few months... keeping it more real(istic) and run a low boost program (550WHP) kind of operation most of the time. I like potential, which is why I chose the TT platform in the first place.

Thanks for your input.

I sure hope that graph isn't serious?!?!?!

hey suman, 40whp is about right

I don't post crap and yes it is serious. There are many people around that can build fast stuff but there are only a few of us that back up every generation of Porsche turbo ever built and still builds them.

That's why I wont make any predictions on my build!!! , When it's ready, I will present the numbers with all the FACTS ...Until then I wont say sh*t . When you do a lot of talking you should back it up! if not keep it to yourself ...IMHO

Steve I love pics like that of the 3.8 set up give us more hahaha