Hi any help appreciated, loking at softronic do to being able to switch back and forth. Exhausts to many to choose?

 

Im happy with my EVOMSit and Europipe 1 combo.

 

PM Sent..

 

If you want to switch back and forth i think you have to choose an exhaust that won't throu a CEL when you have the stock flash.

I want to be able to do the same so i ordered the Europipe stage 1 exhaust.

 

Thanks,

 

FVD and Akrapovic!

 

Where are you guys ordering the Europipe Stage 1 from? I'm in the market myself and would appreciate some help getting a decent price.

 

www.europipe.be

 

It would be a good post worthy of a sticky if all of the available tuning options for 997TTs were laid out with detailed information on each.

-OBD2 port loaded or loaded directly onto the ecu
-Description of the tuning program and what's modified
-Options of the tuning program - i.e. different maps for different fuels adjusting the boost and timing and stated levels for each.
-Options for personalized tuning based on different turbos or injectors w/o having to repurchase then entire program
-Option for personalized tuning at all. Having a cookie cutter tuning program for all cars isn't exactly smart or optimal especially when the end user isn't monitoring any of the car's systems.
-Price with additional or upgrade prices stated

It seems people here purchase their tuning program based on the name of the company and or some package named a numerical hp number without getting basic facts beforehand or verifying anything with an actual boost gauge wide-band, or egt gauge, injector duty cycle, etc...

Be nice to have detailed information on available TCU programs as well.

Exhausts aren't all equal either as I've read here. I've usually only seen reviews based on on sound or how the tips looked, not power increases or weight reduction/addition. If I had the chance to reduce weight from the rear of the car, I'd sure take that into consideration when purchasing an exhaust. Be nice to see an "Exhaust Shootout" with prices, weights, and hp/tq increases noted. Some of these systems are NOT worth what they're priced at.

John H

 

I would actually guess that MOST of these exhaust systems are NOT worth what they're priced at.

 

Never understood why people say "not worth what they are priced at". If people buy them at that price then that's their market value. It's that simple. What do you expect when you own an expensive european sports car. Why don't you just buy chinese junk and stop whining. I say stop supporting countries where child labor is abused and people work for basically a bowl of rice. It just puts more people out of work here.

 

Exhausts by themselves are more about sound and looks rather than the minimal HP/TQ gains that are registered. That's probably why most reviews on them are about just those two factors. If I'm correct, I believe it takes approx 100lbs to affect the 1/4 mile time by 1/10 of a sec. So the weight factor is a small piece of a bigger puzzle. Not to diminish the fact that 13lbs here and there saved does add up, but that's what it needs to do, add up with other weight saving changes.

 

That's the way to roll for sure

 

When you have collusion or price-fixing, a person's choice is either to own or not own the product. No one is whining and no one is buying Chinese junk. Child labor? lol wtf? Put into perspective, an exhaust made up of a few stainless steel pipes for this car costs more than my girlfriend's entire car is worth.

John H

 

Sound and looks? See... that's exactly what I was saying above. A proper free flowing exhaust system on a turbocharged vehicle is critical to hp/tq and large gains can be had - especially once you up the boost.

Weight factor isn't a small piece of the bigger puzzle, it's the other half of the power to weight ratio. P to W = P/W. Not to mention how it enhances handling and braking characteristics. You're right, it all adds up. I'd choose to lose 26lbs off the weight heavy rear of the car vs paying the same to not losing any in a part change. People pay big money to lose less than 26lbs in other areas. A 1/10th of a second is an entire car length in the 1/4 mile. I've lost national events by much less than that. Drop a 100lbs from your car and you'll notice it.

John H