Kline is half the price of EP - is it a better choice?
1- I don't know why you care or if I'm an American citizen or not... do I need to post a picture of my a Passport? 4 years in the Marines and 2 deployments to Afghanistan.... Do I need to say more? What have you done for this country?
2- Sue a company for a $700 air intake? Please give me a breaker.
3-I was a freaking idiot when I bought that air intake... That was way before I joined this forum... Back in February so I didn't know anything about cars... I trusted somebody's word!!!! No Fabspeed... I trusted SAM! That's why I'm "upset" (I'm not really upset I just don't trust him anymore)
4-If you can't understand that I'm done talking to you...
2- Sue a company for a $700 air intake? Please give me a breaker.
3-I was a freaking idiot when I bought that air intake... That was way before I joined this forum... Back in February so I didn't know anything about cars... I trusted somebody's word!!!! No Fabspeed... I trusted SAM! That's why I'm "upset" (I'm not really upset I just don't trust him anymore)
4-If you can't understand that I'm done talking to you...
Small claims is an easy deal and costs you 10$
Sam has nothing to do with fabspeeds design
YOU DONT get that people lie and you think that its the WRONG persons FAULT. Thats what you dont get. Most people here are not like you. They get mad at the maker of the product not the VENDOR thats why I said you were from another country.
Now if I am on chicken street, if you actually left your FOB and walked around unarmed and alone you should KNOW where that is, I will blame the vendor that sold me the wrong python purse.
Because you probably don't know because most of you guys sit in your MRAPS and dont even see the guy in the corolla next to you in the Porsche hat. But its in Kabul, downtown in an area where a lot of kidnappings and attacks happen. We can talk about herat, kunduz, or Mazar too.
Thanks for your service but watch your step, you might be stepping on a guy that made sure you came home in one piece and still is.
Instead you are getting pissed at me when all i was trying to do was explain something... SHEESSH
You don't owe him anything... This is not a competition! I was your client and you promise me something that didn't work out... I'm sure you are a good honest person and a good vendor but unfortunately you were wrong with that air intake... I'm not saying you are wrong with the exhaust! Maybe that exhaust is the best exhaust in the world! I don't really care anymore... But there is a chance that you could be wrong again... You told me you will stand behind the cold air intake! Honor your word... Just take responsibility you know that intake is a piece of crap...
Sam
You don't owe him anything... This is not a competition! I was your client and you promise me something that didn't work out... I'm sure you are a good honest person and a good vendor but unfortunately you were wrong with that air intake... I'm not saying you are wrong with the exhaust! Maybe that exhaust is the best exhaust in the world! I don't really care anymore... But there is a chance that you could be wrong again... You told me you will stand behind the cold air intake! Honor your word... Just take responsibility you know that intake is a piece of crap...
You don't owe him anything... This is not a competition! I was your client and you promise me something that didn't work out... I'm sure you are a good honest person and a good vendor but unfortunately you were wrong with that air intake... I'm not saying you are wrong with the exhaust! Maybe that exhaust is the best exhaust in the world! I don't really care anymore... But there is a chance that you could be wrong again... You told me you will stand behind the cold air intake! Honor your word... Just take responsibility you know that intake is a piece of crap...
Sam how are you able to make an Exhaust and CAI! This guy doenst get MARKETING!!! He thinks you are responsible for the claims of a Manufacturer!!
I would pay for a customer like that to Never shop with me again
Sam I will buy from you to offset those that dont understand you are an outlet for product not a designer
Before I bought the air intake! I sent a PM to Sam and he told me it was a really good air intake and bla bla bla bla 1000hp "I will stand behind this product" that is the reason why I'm "basing" Sam....
If you guys want good vendors i will only trust
-Champion Motorsport
-Europipe
There is more good vendors out there... but i only had good experiences with this 2...
Back to our regularly scheduled program!
Kline exhaust system doesn't need heat shields, this is down to the way the exhaust is designed, it runs cooler. They can supply heat shields if you really feel you would like some, but they are not necessary. You can use stock tails, or any oem fitment tails. <O
Decat pipes are 70mm, cat pipes are 80mm -108mm, then into 63mm x pipe.<O
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They can do any configuration, they can even copy europipes configuration, of 80mm, 127mm 100cell cats, then back to 63mm. but seriously, Kline design produces a better torque curve, better driving experience, and ultimately a faster car.<O
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Back pressure was a concept some tuners came up with in the 1970s, to try to explain a phenomenon that they didn't understand. These days companies have a better understanding of compressible fluid dynamics, and consequently realize that back pressure is not only obsolete, but misleading.<O
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Europipe is a pretty good system, and to some extents they are right. Larger diameter cats with fewer cells are more tuned towards redline, but you sacrifice mid range power, and low end turbo spool. Another reason for the larger diameter, that they don’t publicise, is to lower ion counts on the post cat O2 sensor to cheat CEL.<O
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Hardcore physics is available on request from Kline just ask them.
Point being just because you chose another system doesn't make a Kline a bad system or cheap, just because it costs less doesn't equate to cheap and if you'd like to hear in person no problem, I live in Vegas and car will be at SEMA too.
On another note I can only vouch for my experience with Sam and his company, my exhaust was purchased through his company and I also did a tune through him of which I was very pleased with his service and quality workmanship. I wouldn't hesitate to use him again as I found him very knowledgeable regarding Porsche and the products I purchased.
I agree with one thing though it seems like if you don't agree with the masses on a few topics it causes issues we all have personal tastes and different ears thats why there are differents speaker companies and wheel manufacturers, hell truth be told there are a few cars on here with wheels that make the car look cheap yet other members tell the OP the car looks great. I have Dynaudio in my car does that mean Focal or Rainbow suck? No it was my preference and lastly we that buy aftermarket products for our cars spend a hell of a lot of moola so to say we buy an exhaust cuz it's cheap? lol thats relative I bought my Kline based on sound, quality and the icing on the cake was it was different from what the masses have as I don't want to drive next to someone and have my car look or sound like theirs. I customize my car to be different and I love how my car came out, its unique and it's mine and I'm the only opinion i care about when it comes to that. K done
Decat pipes are 70mm, cat pipes are 80mm -108mm, then into 63mm x pipe.<O
></O
>They can do any configuration, they can even copy europipes configuration, of 80mm, 127mm 100cell cats, then back to 63mm. but seriously, Kline design produces a better torque curve, better driving experience, and ultimately a faster car.<O
</O
Back pressure was a concept some tuners came up with in the 1970s, to try to explain a phenomenon that they didn't understand. These days companies have a better understanding of compressible fluid dynamics, and consequently realize that back pressure is not only obsolete, but misleading.<O
</O
Europipe is a pretty good system, and to some extents they are right. Larger diameter cats with fewer cells are more tuned towards redline, but you sacrifice mid range power, and low end turbo spool. Another reason for the larger diameter, that they don’t publicise, is to lower ion counts on the post cat O2 sensor to cheat CEL.<O
</O
Hardcore physics is available on request from Kline just ask them.
Point being just because you chose another system doesn't make a Kline a bad system or cheap, just because it costs less doesn't equate to cheap and if you'd like to hear in person no problem, I live in Vegas and car will be at SEMA too.
On another note I can only vouch for my experience with Sam and his company, my exhaust was purchased through his company and I also did a tune through him of which I was very pleased with his service and quality workmanship. I wouldn't hesitate to use him again as I found him very knowledgeable regarding Porsche and the products I purchased.
I agree with one thing though it seems like if you don't agree with the masses on a few topics it causes issues we all have personal tastes and different ears thats why there are differents speaker companies and wheel manufacturers, hell truth be told there are a few cars on here with wheels that make the car look cheap yet other members tell the OP the car looks great. I have Dynaudio in my car does that mean Focal or Rainbow suck? No it was my preference and lastly we that buy aftermarket products for our cars spend a hell of a lot of moola so to say we buy an exhaust cuz it's cheap? lol thats relative I bought my Kline based on sound, quality and the icing on the cake was it was different from what the masses have as I don't want to drive next to someone and have my car look or sound like theirs. I customize my car to be different and I love how my car came out, its unique and it's mine and I'm the only opinion i care about when it comes to that. K done
On another note I can only vouch for my experience with Sam and his company, my exhaust was purchased through his company and I also did a tune through him of which I was very pleased with his service and quality workmanship. I wouldn't hesitate to use him again as I found him very knowledgeable regarding Porsche and the products I purchased.
I agree with one thing though it seems like if you don't agree with the masses on a few topics it causes issues we all have personal tastes and different ears thats why there are differents speaker companies and wheel manufacturers, hell truth be told there are a few cars on here with wheels that make the car look cheap yet other members tell the OP the car looks great. I have Dynaudio in my car does that mean Focal or Rainbow suck? No it was my preference and lastly we that buy aftermarket products for our cars spend a hell of a lot of moola so to say we buy an exhaust cuz it's cheap? lol thats relative I bought my Kline based on sound, quality and the icing on the cake was it was different from what the masses have as I don't want to drive next to someone and have my car look or sound like theirs. I customize my car to be different and I love how my car came out, its unique and it's mine and I'm the only opinion i care about when it comes to that. K done
You should post a video of your exhaust!
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