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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Carbon fiber manufacture quality...

Hi! this is my first post so hello to everyone.
I am the owner of a Porsche CarreraS 997 form 2005, i'm just writting here wondering if someone had the same problem as me.

When i bought my car back in 2005 i ordered the carbon fiber interior but two years later the carbon fiber parts started to get off and curve, in the porsche center they said it was because the heat (something stupid i know...) and they just glued it again. A year after (the guarantee was over) everything started to get worst until now...

this video explains the problem and show off the parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkq_TkENLfY

sorry for the video quality i did my best...

I contacted all the porsche centers and the main company to try to make them assume it is a manufacture fault, is not my bussiness to break my own car... but they just refused. I would like to know if someone had the same problem and if they did, how did they solve it.

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The OEM CF defroster trims are common problem. But never seen CF lower console like this. Also all pc. seem to color fade to yellowish which is common issue with OEM trims too. Best of luck dealing with factory since your 05 should be out of warranty now. If you need aftermarket replacement, we can help!
 
Old Jan 31, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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thanks i keep trying dealing with them in order to see if they can response in front of this...
 
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Wow - that looks terrible. Wonder why Porsche even offers that if that is how it wears.

And they glued it under warranty? And that looked OK? Since it was a problem under warranty and the fix didn't really work, maybe they will do something for you - like put the normal parts in rather than CF.
 
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Nice, nothing like paying a lot more for an option that looks like crap shortly after.
 
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for a time it looked "ok" but then it just finished as you can see now, the problem is that porsche still says they cannot do anithing else than charge me for the repair...
 
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note to self: get anything that looks dubious replaced before warranty expires.
 
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sure man! dont let the time pass...
 
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2 weeks before my warranty expired, I took my car into the dealer and asked them to comb through my car to see if they could find anything to fix before the warranty expired. Long story short, they were happy to accommodate. They replace a battery and cables under warranty. Saved me some money and they found some extra work paid by Porsche.
 
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Parked in the sun during the hot portions of the day ?
That's what it looks like to me . 54K miles +6 years old . Things do wear out.
 
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note to self: get anything that looks dubious replaced before warranty expires.
Totally. And if it's iffy, help it along a little before visiting the dealership and demanding last minute warranty replacement...
 
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Parked in the sun during the hot portions of the day ?
That's what it looks like to me . 54K miles +6 years old . Things do wear out.
it has never been parked on the street... trust me i've paid tons of money in parking lots, and the place you see on the vid is the one it stays always.

In spain is not possible to leave this car in the street hoping nothing will happen hahahaha
 
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it has never been parked on the street... trust me i've paid tons of money in parking lots, and the place you see on the vid is the one it stays always.

In spain is not possible to leave this car in the street hoping nothing will happen hahahaha
Then you might want to present those facts to your regional reps and see if they offer any type of "goodwill" assistance . Especially since you have taken the car in and documented it back when the car was two years old .

It's going to be tough though given the age, distance driven, and that they would be hearing of it for the first time now ... 6 years later.
 
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yes i already explained them, but anyway they have been hearing about this for the last years is not something new for them hahahaha
 
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Well,

Is definitely not from the just "heat". Real carbon fiber isn't very functional when its so thin. Looks like its literly an over lay.. I'm really surprised to see that Porsche's accounts are making the carbon fiber. Its not Heat or even UV exposure. Its justs time. Epoxy/resin based composites will all warp like that in due time and only be accelerated by the heat or UV. If the fabric isn't some how re-inforced some how it will do that. ALWAYS. Theres no way to stop it. Its just the nature of the beast.

I think the only way it can be done correct is if you go with one of these after market companies that make the WHOLE piece out of carbon fiber and use UNI directional carbon fiber. How they use it is another story but it will help. Also sense the trim might have edges and tappers this could help strengthened it also giving it like a I beam or U channel effect. These are all things porsche didn't really do. The resin or jell coat which ever they used looks like its yellowing too. Im not surprised. Its probably from the same batch they used on the ALL yellowing Carrera GT's.

Sorry to hear about this. LESSON LEARN:
Next time save your money. You will spend less buying better stuff from one of these reputable aftermarket companies and you will help small business commerce as well as support American jobs.
 

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