TPC Supercharger going on my '07 Targa 4S
Thank you! I'm looking forward to it!
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I supercharged my former E46 M3 'Vert with an ASA blower for 500 HP (429 RWHP) and loved it - beastly!
I'm considering going F/I again but this time if I do it I'll go with the turbo (not that I didn't like the S/C). I've seen the TPC videos and they're impressive and running low boost. Any idea what the output will be with their S/C? Which blower? Also, what made you decide on the S/C versus their turbo? Regrets on all the questions - just curious.
I supercharged my former E46 M3 'Vert with an ASA blower for 500 HP (429 RWHP) and loved it - beastly!
I'm considering going F/I again but this time if I do it I'll go with the turbo (not that I didn't like the S/C). I've seen the TPC videos and they're impressive and running low boost. Any idea what the output will be with their S/C? Which blower? Also, what made you decide on the S/C versus their turbo? Regrets on all the questions - just curious.
You KNOW it's going up to the BuckSnort!
Just heard from Velocity Motors, yesterday they installed lower supercharger bracket and the new injectors (I understand that is a tough part of the job) and they have A/C lines routed! I try to post some photos.
Here is what TPC Racing had on the sea level at the wheel HP comparison on stock and S/C a 3.8S. They experienced 110 HP gain and 125 torque gain. I am curious if my gains, in nominal numbers, will be higher due to the altitude and placing on forced induction....
Anybody know the calculation of what 413.8 HP at the wheel is translated to at the crank? I see that the at the wheel stock HP is 304.5, that's 16.58% less than the stated at the crank stock HP of 355. So if I take the at the wheel S/C HP of 413.8 and gross it up by 16.58%, I get 482.4 at the crank S/C HP. Does that calculation make sense? It does not seem right because that would be only a 69.6 at the crank HP increase.

Here is how nicely TPC packages their stuff:

Very organized with a parts checklist, an install guide and install CD.
Here is what TPC Racing had on the sea level at the wheel HP comparison on stock and S/C a 3.8S. They experienced 110 HP gain and 125 torque gain. I am curious if my gains, in nominal numbers, will be higher due to the altitude and placing on forced induction....
Anybody know the calculation of what 413.8 HP at the wheel is translated to at the crank? I see that the at the wheel stock HP is 304.5, that's 16.58% less than the stated at the crank stock HP of 355. So if I take the at the wheel S/C HP of 413.8 and gross it up by 16.58%, I get 482.4 at the crank S/C HP. Does that calculation make sense? It does not seem right because that would be only a 69.6 at the crank HP increase.
Here is how nicely TPC packages their stuff:
Very organized with a parts checklist, an install guide and install CD.
Last edited by DoninDEN; Mar 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM.
Don,
Assuming that wheel HP is 304.5, like you said, and OEM crank HP is @ 355, you got ~ 16% drivetrain loss. Applying that to S/C wheel HP as shown on the graph from TPC, that puts you @ ~482 HP @ crank. That's a 127 HP increase @ crank from stock, not the 69 HP that you mentioned.
Assuming that wheel HP is 304.5, like you said, and OEM crank HP is @ 355, you got ~ 16% drivetrain loss. Applying that to S/C wheel HP as shown on the graph from TPC, that puts you @ ~482 HP @ crank. That's a 127 HP increase @ crank from stock, not the 69 HP that you mentioned.
Here is what TPC Racing had on the sea level at the wheel HP comparison on stock and S/C a 3.8S. They experienced 110 HP gain and 125 torque gain. I am curious if my gains, in nominal numbers, will be higher due to the altitude and placing on forced induction....
Anybody know the calculation of what 413.8 HP at the wheel is translated to at the crank? I see that the at the wheel stock HP is 304.5, that's 16.58% less than the stated at the crank stock HP of 355. So if I take the at the wheel S/C HP of 413.8 and gross it up by 16.58%, I get 482.4 at the crank S/C HP. Does that calculation make sense? It does not seem right because that would be only a 69.6 at the crank HP increase.
Anybody know the calculation of what 413.8 HP at the wheel is translated to at the crank? I see that the at the wheel stock HP is 304.5, that's 16.58% less than the stated at the crank stock HP of 355. So if I take the at the wheel S/C HP of 413.8 and gross it up by 16.58%, I get 482.4 at the crank S/C HP. Does that calculation make sense? It does not seem right because that would be only a 69.6 at the crank HP increase.
Last edited by 808c2s; Mar 16, 2012 at 12:23 PM.
Don,
Assuming that wheel HP is 304.5, like you said, and OEM crank HP is @ 355, you got ~ 16% drivetrain loss. Applying that to S/C wheel HP as shown on the graph from TPC, that puts you @ ~482 HP @ crank. That's a 127 HP increase @ crank from stock, not the 69 HP that you mentioned.
Assuming that wheel HP is 304.5, like you said, and OEM crank HP is @ 355, you got ~ 16% drivetrain loss. Applying that to S/C wheel HP as shown on the graph from TPC, that puts you @ ~482 HP @ crank. That's a 127 HP increase @ crank from stock, not the 69 HP that you mentioned.
That's right! I wasn't basing it off the 355! Thank you! I can live with a 127 more ponies!!
I would guess a lot depends on any preexisting conditions of your motor, bearings and all. Most people believe that a moderate FI at 4-5psi is not causing motor into danger zone still you are adding good 100 horses on top of what stock motor was designed for. You are definetely reducing available resource of hours to next failure on a motor with this but in practical world it all really depends of original motor condition.
Enjoy it while it lasts and keep an eye on a temperature gauge.
Enjoy it while it lasts and keep an eye on a temperature gauge.
I would guess a lot depends on any preexisting conditions of your motor, bearings and all. Most people believe that a moderate FI at 4-5psi is not causing motor into danger zone still you are adding good 100 horses on top of what stock motor was designed for. You are definetely reducing available resource of hours to next failure on a motor with this but in practical world it all really depends of original motor condition.
Enjoy it while it lasts and keep an eye on a temperature gauge.
Enjoy it while it lasts and keep an eye on a temperature gauge.
I suspect that the percentage of owners on the forums is relatively small, but probably statistically signficant. (LOL, that only means 5%). But I suspect the percentage of owners that place a FI kit on their cars and are also on the forums to be significantly higher. So for me unless I see data, it is a unproven wive's tail.
Sweet ride btw i think cattman had a his 997 supercharged idk if hes still on the forum but he would deff know alot about it. From what i remember he loved it. I also knew a guy who had a 997s supercharged my ooo myyyy what a diffrence in power! Car was a animal! Good luck to you and have fun!!
For what it's worth I put over 40k miles on my E46 M3 and I was running 6.5 psi with no problems. I think you'll be fine at the psi you'll be running. Looking forward to your progress.



