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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
I still don't think you're stating the issue properly - the tuner lug bolts ARE fine to use as long as the wheel has been designed to use them. The tuner lug bolts you have are NOT to be used with wheels like the OEM Porsche wheels that use the ball seat type lug bolts. The tuner lug bolts are to be used with wheels that have been designed to use them such as your Ruger Mesh wheels. With the wheel mounted properly and with 5 lug bolts properly torqued there is no reason for 3 or 4 lug bolts to come loose. I still think your first instinct is correct - someone started to take the wheel and had second thoughts or were scared away.
Yeah a couple of things. That ad is a bunch of baloney. If the wheels were designed to use conical seats then the lugs would be conical. The only thing that mattes to the car is that the lug bolt thread and diameter measurements are the same. The seat never touches the hub, just the wheel.

In my previous post I missed that these aftermarket wheels didn't use OEM bolt or seat patterns. In reality, it sounds like the bolts are fine. I really think they were either 1) not torqued correctly to begin with or 2) removed and either not replaced at all or not tightened (i.e. whoever replaced them was distracted and forgot to torque them down).

Are your other wheels just fine? If so, then I think the simple solution is to replace the lost bolts and make sure they are torqued correctly on every nut and every wheel and you'll be fine.

After maybe 100 miles driving, recheck everything to be sure nothing has come loose. If not, then you never have to come back to this thread you've started and everything's good. If they still come loose... well... we'll see you in 100 miles.

I say this because this is exactly what I would do.

PS You mentioned there was extreme wobbling in the wheel/hub. I would also have your dealer check out the axle/hub to make sure it is within tolerance and there is no permanent damage.
 
Old Apr 28, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
I still don't think you're stating the issue properly - the tuner lug bolts ARE fine to use as long as the wheel has been designed to use them. The tuner lug bolts you have are NOT to be used with wheels like the OEM Porsche wheels that use the ball seat type lug bolts. The tuner lug bolts are to be used with wheels that have been designed to use them such as your Ruger Mesh wheels. With the wheel mounted properly and with 5 lug bolts properly torqued there is no reason for 3 or 4 lug bolts to come loose. I still think your first instinct is correct - someone started to take the wheel and had second thoughts or were scared away.
Agree

And just to add: you've had those bolts for a while, correct? And no issues, correct? You have 20 bolts and the chance 3 bolts coming loose ON THE SAME WHEEL is astronomical in probability. But then again.... This is me.

Good luck.
 
Old Apr 28, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cab83_750
Agree

And just to add: you've had those bolts for a while, correct? And no issues, correct? You have 20 bolts and the chance 3 bolts coming loose ON THE SAME WHEEL is astronomical in probability. But then again.... This is me.

Good luck.
I've had them for about 3 weeks. So not that long. They were brand new.
Listen I'm grateful for all the well intentioned advice and the time you all took to respond. But as we wind down this thread, a show of hands the people that will opt for wheels with tuner bolts given my experience and the previously posted ad?
 
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I've had them for about 3 weeks. So not that long. They were brand new.
Listen I'm grateful for all the well intentioned advice and the time you all took to respond. But as we wind down this thread, a show of hands the people that will opt for wheels with tuner bolts given my experience and the previously posted ad?
As long as I'm certain the bolt is manufactured well, fits my vehicle and fits the wheels it was designed for then yes I'd use aftermarket bolts. In fact, I use black aftermarket bolts on my black OEM wheels.
 
Old Apr 28, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nwGTS
As long as I'm certain the bolt is manufactured well, fits my vehicle and fits the wheels it was designed for then yes I'd use aftermarket bolts. In fact, I use black aftermarket bolts on my black OEM wheels.
The question was will you buy wheels that use "tuner" bolts instead of OEM bolts. You are answering a different question.
You in particular called the ad baloney. But knowing what the ad said (baloney or not) and my experience (possible improper tightening but who knows for sure?) would you buy tuner bolt wheels?
 
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I'd only add a couple of things:
Ruger Mesh are a popular aftermarket Porsche wheel. If they were sold with those bolts, I suspect they will work fine with those bolts. If they were dramatically shorter, I'd be concerned. However, you also need to be concerned with bolts that are too long, as they can interfere as well.
I typically mount the wheels while on a jack and tighten them only lightly, then torque them down with a torque wrench after I lower the car. In haste, I neglected to torque down the wheels once. Yes, stupid mistake. No major consequences, but I'm careful to DOUBLE check the torque of each wheel now after I make a change.
 
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Originally Posted by ryem3
I'd only add a couple of things:
Ruger Mesh are a popular aftermarket Porsche wheel. If they were sold with those bolts, I suspect they will work fine with those bolts.
True, but I got the first batch of the latest design. The ones that can now take the OEM center caps. Potential flaw? Anyways I'm probably just a little too paranoid. I'll bolt it on, torque wrench it to spec and drive slow for a 100 miles and see.
Again, grateful to all the commenters.
 
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Originally Posted by slowday
The question was will you buy wheels that use "tuner" bolts instead of OEM bolts. You are answering a different question.
Still the same answer - I'd use bolts designed for the specific wheel. It's obvious from your pics that the bolt with your wheels is much different than OEM (and OEM won't fit in the hole anyway). If you're saying that your "tuner" bolts were an aftermarket option that replaced what was shipped with the wheels then I'd say use the bolts shipped with the wheel. There is nothing inherently wrong with using "tuner" bolts as long as they are the correct size and style (ball seat, conical, etc.)...and torqued to specs.
 
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Eeek - glad you are ok! That's always a sketchy situation and I'm glad you caught it earlier as you did.

Sounds like vandalism to me. Any marks/other signs of theft?
 
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