hahahhaahh M3 beats 997S
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Originally Posted by 05997S
Super chargers and turbos are basically pumps that physically force/compress a larger amount of air into the cylinders to increase power. Nitrous when introduced to the air in the manifold interacts with the atmospheric air and oxidizes it and the evaporation of the liquid nitrous cools and condenses the fuel/air charge which results in more effecient combustion.
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Originally Posted by drjoe
500 is a LOT of weight....
gizmo is a metal screen replacement in formt of the mass air sensor...good for 3 hp..
gizmo is a metal screen replacement in formt of the mass air sensor...good for 3 hp..
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Originally Posted by Shawn C
"O Where" "O Where" ..are the car collection pic's M3jon?
"O Where" "O Where" ..could they be?????
"O Where" "O Where" ..could they be?????
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Originally Posted by M3j0n
ok... well if it doesnt add the volume of combustible air, then why would you need to add fuel to maintain proper stoich ratios?? THe point is that its ADDING volume of combustible air for compression. THats FI to me....how about we agree to disagree? It sure sounds to me like youre talking about shooting NOS into the intercooler......
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Originally Posted by NiATE
You add fuel because you're adding OXYGEN but you're not increasing the PRESSURE of the air charge. FI increases the pressure of the air charge above ambient. NO2 increases the amount of oxygen in the air charge but does not significantly increase the pressure. Similar end result, but different technology entirely.
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as far as my argument goes: turbo and S/C increase air volume through compression and increase fuel through tuning and injectors. NOS increases air volume through decompression of the bottle and increase fuel through the injectors and added fuel line if running a wet kit. SAME main goal: increase combustible air volume and fuel volume for more power.
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Originally Posted by M3j0n
thank you for misquoting me again....... i clearly said that the 997S is faster than any stock m3, but it doesnt necessarily take FI to beat a 997S. ITs pointless for me to continue this discussion with you guys because youre so convinced otherwise. ITs fine... People that buy the 997S as their only Porsche are the guys that couldnt pony up the dough for a real turbo car. I know you should find some security in knowing you paid nearly double for a car that performs worse than an m3 and is less practical. Generally when people make the jump from an m3 to a p-car its to a turbo not to a 997S....
As for not coughing up the dough for a turbo and instead getting a 997s that is ridiculous. a 997s outperforms a stock m3 anyday in any way. Maybe its more practical but who cares. Some people dont need a FI car and thereofore opt not for the turbo. The 997s is one mean car thats all I have to say.
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no doubt that the 997S is fast.. i never said that it wasnt... I also never said that a stock m3 could beat a 997S. A stock 997S outperforms a more-practical stock m3, thats for sure..... but for nearly double the price! Regardless of what you "think," a fully modded N/A m3 will beat a stock 997S.
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You are very abrasive and defensive, and somewhat insulting to someone who was merely trying to help clarify this exhausted discussion.
"increase combustible air volume and fuel volume for more power."
This is inaccurate. You're not increasing AIR VOLUME. You're increasing OXYGEN CONCENTRATION. Air volume ramians the same with nitrous.
"increase combustible air volume and fuel volume for more power."
This is inaccurate. You're not increasing AIR VOLUME. You're increasing OXYGEN CONCENTRATION. Air volume ramians the same with nitrous.
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Originally Posted by M3j0n
no doubt that the 997S is fast.. i never said that it wasnt... I also never said that a stock m3 could beat a 997S. A stock 997S outperforms a more-practical stock m3, thats for sure..... but for nearly double the price! Regardless of what you "think," a fully modded N/A m3 will beat a stock 997S.
05997s: What didnt you like about the gruppe m ti exhaust. I am looking into getting an m3 and was doing some research on what exhausts would be good for it and I happened to like that one and found a great price for it. What were your impressions (i.e. power, tq, sound, quality etc). Any info would help, thanks!
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
05997s: What didnt you like about the gruppe m ti exhaust. I am looking into getting an m3 and was doing some research on what exhausts would be good for it and I happened to like that one and found a great price for it. What were your impressions (i.e. power, tq, sound, quality etc). Any info would help, thanks!