THanks for clarifying the situation..... Now i know youre basically talking out of your *** and you dont know ****. If you dont think a stock m3 will beat a 996C4S, then you have to give me the name and number of your drug dealer because you are smoking some good ****!


Ok, ********..... NOt all gas in ambient air is combustible. Therefore, by increasing the percentage of oxygen (a combustible gas), youre increasing the combustible air volume. Remember that keeping the total air volume and increasing the combustible air volume can be done at the same time. Its really ****ign simple... you just want to be a ***** and argue.

 

m3 jon are those your Dad's cars or do you work for a dealer or something? any more pics of the garage full of cars?

I simply find it difficult to believe that someone with that stable full of nice cars could conduct himself like such a juvenile reprobate.
BTW, not to be argumentative, I just hate to see the language misused... unless you've decided unilaterally to alter mechanical terminology, Forced Induction means increasing the GROSS VOLUME of air via mechanical device!...That is, if you're applying the same language and nomenclature accepted as standard convention within motorsports circles for the last 70 years!

 

THAT'S the difference. There is no way to get respect on this forum with that type of behavior. In fact, it's the fastest way to get banned...hint hint...

 

Roof? How do you replace the roof? Do you cut it out? Trunk or trunk lid? Forgive me, but I find losing 500 lbs a stretch at best. You would have to gut the entire car and then it would still be a strong maybe. The turbo vs the gt2 is about a 300 lbs weight savings and they removed the front drivetrain, rear seats, no sound proofing, lighter carpet, ceramic brakes among other small variables to achieve this weight reduction. Carbon fiber is lighter but 500 lbs? I don't think so.

Brakes, maybe a 35 lbs savings, exhaust 20 lbs savings, seats, battery, cf intake, maybe 75 pounds tops, wheels 25 lbs, if you're lucky. You got 345 lbs to go. Even after the CF body parts, you're a good a 175 pounds off and thats being optimistic on all of the numbers. I guess you've got to get rid of the fat chick.

 

[quote=M3j0n]THanks for clarifying the situation..... Now i know youre basically talking out of your *** and you dont know ****. If you dont think a stock m3 will beat a 996C4S, then you have to give me the name and number of your drug dealer because you are smoking some good ****!

I was trying to be civil with you since everyone here was trash talking you and now i know why. you really pissed me off now u punk *** little *****. show me anyhwere u have seen any m3 run faster than a low 13 stock. I have seen c4s rip high 12's. Therefore that is faster than a stock m3. why dont i put down in my sig that i own all 612 carrera gt's that came to the US and take pics of all of them. u r a waste of life.

 

500 lbs is a lot, but easily doable! Removing the roof with cf replacement is almost 100 lbs, replacing seats with my recaro pole positions was well over 100 lbs for both savings. Race muffler, piping, headers, no cats and so on was easily 40-50 lbs im guessing, stock muffler is HEAVYY! My brake kit savbed like 20 lbs, cf trunk and hood arent so much big weight savings but about 40 together, removing back seats and panels is 40-50 lbs, it all adds up!

 

martin is the king of weight savings! 500 is doable, but requires a good amount of work. As far as my language goes, its all out of frustration from arguing with morons. Now youre saying a 996 c4s will beat an m3?> laughable

 

obviously this forum is full of people that want to think their car is magical, whether it be the 997S or the 996 C4S. You guys also think that NOS isnt FI... thats fantastic. I bet 1% if that work on your own cars... Anyway, take care, enjoy your standard carreras, and keep believeing what you need to....I'm out of this BS.

 

Anything is "do able," but how far can you or are able to go to reach that "do able." "Easily do able?" I can appreciate your optimism, but 500 lbs is still 500 lbs. Replacing the roof is a 100 lb difference? Even using your optimistic numbers still will not get you there (your total 350 lbs). Sorry, if I have trouble with that number, but what do I know?

 

Its almost a 100 lbs, close to 85 to be somewhat exact, its alot of weight due to the glass, motor and so on of the sunroof! BTW 500 lbs in any car is doable, but then your changing things that dont exactly make it a street car anymore and its alot of $. It can be done of course!

My 996TT has no sunroof and is considerably lighter then a 04 turbo with sunroof!

 

What makes him the King of weight savings? There is and was plenty of M3's that are lighter.

500lb loss on the M3 is very difficult. I doubt BRn- has lost 500 with just those mods, i pretty much have the same thing. You can do a good 250-300;bs but after that it gets very difficult.

 

agreed.. all the components in the sunroof assembly are ridiculously heavy....luckily on the e46 the roof is a separate panel, whereas on the e36 it isnt. I believe the 996 roof is also a separate panel.

 

Incorrect.

 

How do you know this? Have you removed your roof? The stock roof weighs hardly anything at all, the moonroof weighs the most part of it. The roof swap from a moonroof to cf is more like 60lb savings.

 

Exactly it isnt easy passed what i basically mentioned. Then you get into stripping carpets, trunk, sound deadening and interior panels, ac system if you want to go that extreme, all cf body panels and so on!

BTW Jerry's car was pretty light M3jon!