hahahhaahh M3 beats 997S
Originally Posted by 05997S
Answer my question and post a pic. What is in my garage is not going to make your M3 any quicker.
Originally Posted by M3j0n
waiting.....come on mr m3 expert, what N/A mods can you see from a picture of the engine bay besides an intake?
you can see the high compression pistons, the aggressive cams, pulleys, lighter flywheel, agressive software, hidden nos jet...j/k....
Originally Posted by M3j0n
waiting.....come on mr m3 expert, what N/A mods can you see from a picture of the engine bay besides an intake?
Originally Posted by 05997S
OK so you have an intake, good first step. Since you say you can't see anything else, you obviously do not have an FI set up, anything else? Here is my old M3 just for fun.



now for some criticism.... You obviously didnt care too much for performance on YOUR m3. You went with aftermarket BBS CHs which are HEAVIER than your stock OEM ZCP wheels....
great move. YOu also didnt touch that car's suspension. THat is one of the best improvements that can be done on that car....
You also had some improperly installed muffler.... great..
now i know why you think the m3s are slower than the 997S.
I can tell you one thing though: your m3 is faster than your non-existant 997S....
Originally Posted by drjoe
you can see the high compression pistons, the aggressive cams, pulleys, lighter flywheel, agressive software, hidden nos jet...j/k....

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Originally Posted by simon
I'm not M3 expert at all, but most of the cars I've fiddled with you can see headers / pipes without looking too hard.
Originally Posted by M3j0n
wow congrats.... so please go back and read all of my posts... i said my car was fully bolt on N/A the whole time; i never said i had any FI! I'm still waiting to hear what N/A mods you are expecting to see besides the intake.........
now for some criticism.... You obviously didnt care too much for performance on YOUR m3. You went with aftermarket BBS CHs which are HEAVIER than your stock OEM ZCP wheels....
great move. YOu also didnt touch that car's suspension. THat is one of the best improvements that can be done on that car....
You also had some improperly installed muffler.... great..
now i know why you think the m3s are slower than the 997S.
I can tell you one thing though: your m3 is faster than your non-existant 997S....

now for some criticism.... You obviously didnt care too much for performance on YOUR m3. You went with aftermarket BBS CHs which are HEAVIER than your stock OEM ZCP wheels....
great move. YOu also didnt touch that car's suspension. THat is one of the best improvements that can be done on that car....
You also had some improperly installed muffler.... great..
now i know why you think the m3s are slower than the 997S.
I can tell you one thing though: your m3 is faster than your non-existant 997S....
I originally bought a Ti Gruppe M what a freak show that was, then I traded my stock system for what I would agree is a marginally fitting magna-flow catback but it sounded fantastic.
The car handled well, but I never really dug the SMG all that much and put off any further mods as I felt I wouldn't keep it long and in fact I didn't.
Still waiting for you to get your **** straight and tell us how you spent 20K an NA mods for your car but have yet to swap out your stock 18"s. And NOS is not FI dip****, as far as the pic, I was only interested in seeing what was not there namely FI. You seem to have some trouble with the facts so I thought a pic might help your cause.
Last edited by SD1; Jul 8, 2006 at 02:04 AM.
Originally Posted by 05997S
Yeah, I am a bit of a posuer, to be honest, one of the main reasons I went with the CH is because it was easier to reach my hand through to clean the dish, plus I like the look a little better. BBS makes the stock rim BTW.
I originally bought a Ti Gruppe M what a freak show that was, then I traded my stock system for what I would agree is a marginally fitting magna-flow catback but it sounded fantastic.
The car handled well, but I never really dug the SMG all that much and put off any further mods as I felt I wouldn't keep it long and in fact I didn't.
Still waiting to here you get your **** straight and tell us how you spent 20K an NA mods for your car but have yet to swap out your stock 18"s.
I originally bought a Ti Gruppe M what a freak show that was, then I traded my stock system for what I would agree is a marginally fitting magna-flow catback but it sounded fantastic.
The car handled well, but I never really dug the SMG all that much and put off any further mods as I felt I wouldn't keep it long and in fact I didn't.
Still waiting to here you get your **** straight and tell us how you spent 20K an NA mods for your car but have yet to swap out your stock 18"s.
WOw, where/when did i ever say that i spent 20K on N/A mods? And when did i say i have stock 18s?
and... did i read that right? "SMG"??!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?! wow! now i totally understand where youre coming from. SMG is a great deal slower than 6sp pal.
look, im not going to discuss this with you anymore.... you bought a ****ing SMG m3, probably made its slower than it was from the factory, and think its a fair to use that as a yardstick against a 997S in this argument. GO drive a modded 6sp m3 and return with your new impressions....
Originally Posted by M3j0n
look, im not going to discuss this with you anymore.... you bought a ****ing SMG m3, probably made its slower than it was from the factory, and think its a fair to use that as a yardstick against a 997S in this argument. GO drive a modded 6sp m3 and return with your new impressions....
alrighty.....thats fine... you can believe whatever you want; its your perogative. And i wont get into a performance discussion with a someone that buys an m3 competition in smg, puts BBS CHs on it, "Calls me out" with stupid questions, and tells me he "knows what it takes to get power out of an m3." thanks for your comments... youre great experience and knowledge of the m3s capabilities are no longer needed in this discussion....



