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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by snakebitten
heres one fullweight street car, 6 speed, IRS, independent suspension etc. Previous 6speed title holder. 7.9 @ 183mph
Seen those.. 183 is 17mph away from 200.. Not to mention on slicks with a nasty launch to get all of the 1320ft MPH he can.. Not pavement on radials.. You said 200mph street cars.. I just asked for 190.. Nobody i have seen in the mile is running slicks.. I hope not at least..

Not to mention check the video of the Red Viper @ 42 seconds.. I dont see the FGT using up all 1320ft of the track like that..
 

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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Not disrespecting anyone or at least not trying to but i just have a hard time swallowing some of the #'s given at these makeshift events.. Im sorry man..

If i was the owner and knew my car was capable of these #'s i would have so much backup data you wouldnt even want to see it all.. Vbox, datalogs of RPM, boost, speed etc.. a simple camera with GPS on the Dash would give us an idea of what speed he was at just before he chopped..

Its easy to just say " the car was on more boost so it must be accurate "..

If a Gallardo owner setup some timers down an abandoned street with $20k timers and told me he ran 8.5@178mph and knows its accurate because he ran 9.1@170 on less boost i would say the same.. There must be BACKUP DATA since we dont have NHRA to sanction this type of racing..

End of the day Im not involved and wont ever be probably the way its setup in Miami.. I run ECTA-LSR aka MAXTON.. Something that holds the same standards as bonneville.. This is a place where there are RULES, classes , standard and accuracy at all time.. I dont have a car that passes their rules but i have over 30 records on my bikes there.. This is a place that records are broken each event by .003 so it MUST be as close to accurate as possible.. I know what headwinds cost as far as MPH.. +18mph headwind and going 267 the car must be good for 273+ easily.. just my .02
I think they have more data than id like to see, The motec has gps, the V-box does as well, The motec has so much data recording of all the stuff on the car its retarded. Did you not read my video post, the car went 271 in testing on thursday. It only made 1400 rwhp at Texas and 1995rwhp or very close to it in Florida. Not just a couple pounds of boost, many lbs of boost like 600rwhp worth of boost. No one has made this type of power in a mile car. Now some more things for you to think about. The Ford Gt is a 60percent rear 40percent front weight bias'd. It can plant 1400 in 3rd gear with no tire spin, I know how fast it goes from 100-200, 200-250, But i feel like ive already given enough info. It is absolutly unreal though how well these cars work, a Supra, viper, mustang, will never be able to put down this type of power without spining the tires at 180+ Unless on a preped drag strip.

I will agree had there not been a head wind we would of seen 270+ from this car... If you look at underground they went 250.1 in Texas and there was a Tail wind there when they ran as we all ran in a tail wind on Sunday. They only went 246 into the head wind in Florida... Ray's car was on a 260 pass in texas, We ran out of fuel inj. at the 3/4 mile mark. You would of seen big no's from texas had the car not shut down from the motec being too damm smart and keeping the motor from KAboom land. We were just sneak'n up on it and we got too greedy the last pass on Sunday in Texas or the Yellow car would of held the mile record there. No biggy we stepped on our own toes there, by waitn to be the last to run and crankn it up allittle too much
 
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Originally Posted by Dans776
I think they have more data than id like to see, The motec has gps, the V-box does as well, The motec has so much data recording of all the stuff on the car its retarded. Did you not read my video post, the car went 271 in testing on thursday. It only made 1400 rwhp at Texas and 1995rwhp or very close to it in Florida. Not just a couple pounds of boost, many lbs of boost like 600rwhp worth of boost. No one has made this type of power in a mile car. Now some more things for you to think about. The Ford Gt is a 60percent rear 40percent front weight bias'd. It can plant 1400 in 3rd gear with no tire spin, I know how fast it goes from 100-200, 200-250, But i feel like ive already given enough info. It is absolutly unreal though how well these cars work, a Supra, viper, mustang, will never be able to put down this type of power without spining the tires at 180+ Unless on a preped drag strip.

I will agree had there not been a head wind we would of seen 270+ from this car... If you look at underground they went 250.1 in Texas and there was a Tail wind there when they ran as we all ran in a tail wind on Sunday. They only went 246 into the head wind in Florida... Ray's car was on a 260 pass in texas, We ran out of fuel inj. at the 3/4 mile mark. You would of seen big no's from texas had the car not shut down from the motec being too damm smart and keeping the motor from KAboom land. We were just sneak'n up on it and we got too greedy the last pass on Sunday in Texas or the Yellow car would of held the mile record there. No biggy we stepped on our own toes there, by waitn to be the last to run and crankn it up allittle too much
I hear what your saying so lets see the Vbox data.. Or Motec data.. Curious thats all..

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In Texas, they were simply taking it easy & making sure everything is working properly as they just finished the current set up. For Miami, they simply turned up the boost.
 
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Originally Posted by speedplay
In Texas, they were simply taking it easy & making sure everything is working properly as they just finished the current set up. For Miami, they simply turned up the boost.
I guess its just that simple man.. Turn up the boost 267mph.. still waiting on GPS or some data to back it up not " we have too much data, trust me its right "..

In todays economy seems many shops will take what they can get, not saying its the case here cause i dont know.. I have seen accidental 1.0 60ft times come at 1/4 mile drag strips and people swear its right still for the 1/4 mile time..

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I would imagine that there may be a reason for not revealing all of their data, damn near 2000 rwhp out of 5.4 liters might require a shop that knows what the heck they are doing? And he is right the Ford GT's rear weight bias, and the ability to make huge power in a relatively light weight car means that the TT Gallardo's have their work cut out for them.
 
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
I would imagine that there may be a reason for not revealing all of their data, damn near 2000 rwhp out of 5.4 liters might require a shop that knows what the heck they are doing? And he is right the Ford GT's rear weight bias, and the ability to make huge power in a relatively light weight car means that the TT Gallardo's have their work cut out for them.
I wasnt asking for the fuel and ignition maps.. LOL

How about a GPS.. several cars had 2 or 3 in there.. this one still has nothing to show but i guess im the only 1 who finds it odd.. The answer to it all is, well its make 2000hp.. so it must run that speed right??? Every MAXTON pass i ever made had GPS on it..

2000hp out of 5.4L.. ok and there are 2.0L making 1400whp and better yet there are 80ci Rotaries making 1150.. and??? The old SKS viper that ran maxton forever was making all kind of HP but barely broke 232.. Imagine he was the King of the hill not long ago.. How would heffner feel if just by chance some makeshift Miami 1 mile was held and someone broke his LEGIT time with a 285mph and we just said well it was easy to tell its legit.. " we just cranked up the boost on the supra to 70psi from 40psi and it did it "..
 

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Theres also a 4.6 mod motor making 2300 rwhp, but thats a drag motor.
 
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John Reed didnt have an issue posting some simple data from the UGR car.. Granted this run showed a 232 on their timers before they FIXED the issue..

 
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I would imagine that there may be a reason for not revealing all of their data, damn near 2000 rwhp out of 5.4 liters might require a shop that knows what the heck they are doing? And he is right the Ford GT's rear weight bias, and the ability to make huge power in a relatively light weight car means that the TT Gallardo's have their work cut out for them.
It is kinda weird they won't post the vbox file. Hopefully they post a file iinstead of a picture representation that you can't quite read. that way you can see things like how many satelites were seen, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Seen those.. 183 is 17mph away from 200.. Not to mention on slicks with a nasty launch to get all of the 1320ft MPH he can.. Not pavement on radials.. You said 200mph street cars.. I just asked for 190.. Nobody i have seen in the mile is running slicks.. I hope not at least..

Not to mention check the video of the Red Viper @ 42 seconds.. I dont see the FGT using up all 1320ft of the track like that..
LOL at you and your setup post. You asked for Vipers running 190+ just so you could throw in your caveats lol. I posted those vids to back up what I said of Vipers, 2 of which are street cars, that have gone 180-200 mph. You asked for Vipers doing 190+...You got one thats a full street car but you harp on the slicks etc. BTW I know where you are coming from in questioning the FGT.

But if that FGT is indeed making 2000+hp then once it hooks, after the 1/8 mile as you stated from the vid, it could concievably do 168mph if cars like these Vipers, making less power, can do these mph's in the full mile. Im pretty sure if they set that FGT up for the 1/4 it would run close to if not a bit over 200mph with slicks. You are used to used to small displacement with high boost so top end acceleration like this blows your mind. This is what happens when you match cubes with high boost

You dont even know how fast the FGT was going before he dropped the hammer at the 1/8 mile according to you. Its not like he did 0-168mph from the 1/8 mile he was already moving maybe even 60mph at lift off. So putting 100+ miles between the 1/8 mile and the end of the 1/4 seems concievable to me especially when you factor in some times from other big cube boosted cars like the Viper. Hey I reserve the right to be wrong however but it seems plausible imho.
 

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Originally Posted by snakebitten
LOL at you and your setup post. You asked for Vipers running 190+ just so you could throw in your caveats lol. I posted those vids to back up what I said of Vipers, 2 of which are street cars, that have gone 180-200 mph. You asked for Vipers doing 190+...You got one thats a full street car but you harp on the slicks etc. BTW I know where you are coming from in questioning the FGT.

But if that FGT is indeed making 2000+hp then once it hooks, after the 1/8 mile as you stated from the vid, it could concievably do 168mph if cars like these Vipers, making less power, can do these mph's in the full mile. Im pretty sure if they set that FGT up for the 1/4 it would run close to if not a bit over 200mph with slicks. You are used to used to small displacement with high boost so top end acceleration like this blows your mind. This is what happens when you match cubes with high boost

You dont even know how fast the FGT was going before he dropped the hammer at the 1/8 mile according to you. Its not like he did 0-168mph from the 1/8 mile he was already moving maybe even 60mph at lift off. So putting 100+ miles between the 1/8 mile and the end of the 1/4 seems concievable to me especially when you factor in some times from other big cube boosted cars like the Viper. Hey I reserve the right to be wrong however but it seems plausible imho.

lmao. Thats logic right there.

You gotta understand your dealing with a dude that just doesn't LIKE american cars... especially high horsepower rear drive ones. The proof is in every one of his post regarding big power domestic cars. They can't hook,..they can't this, they they they..yada yada. Just can't accept the fact that these cars are capable of running these times. He's got a 4 cylinder mind.

 
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I dont follow vipers much but I'd love to see 1 unibody viper on radials that runs 190+mph.. Send me some links please!!!

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Unibody Viper? Really???

Sal (the black GTS) has run over 191 on radials (see you tube), he doesn't use slicks. I expect he'll run even faster this year... His car still has the full interior, power everything, IRS, goes through yearly inspection/emissions, etc. Although, I think he ditched the AC last season to offset some weight addition when he was forced to beef up his required cage. Sorry, but 7 second cars have to have the cage to even run.

The 200 mph silver GTS has a solid axle rear and runs slicks.
 

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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I wasnt asking for the fuel and ignition maps.. LOL

How about a GPS.. several cars had 2 or 3 in there.. this one still has nothing to show but i guess im the only 1 who finds it odd.. The answer to it all is, well its make 2000hp.. so it must run that speed right??? Every MAXTON pass i ever made had GPS on it..

2000hp out of 5.4L.. ok and there are 2.0L making 1400whp and better yet there are 80ci Rotaries making 1150.. and??? The old SKS viper that ran maxton forever was making all kind of HP but barely broke 232.. Imagine he was the King of the hill not long ago.. How would heffner feel if just by chance some makeshift Miami 1 mile was held and someone broke his LEGIT time with a 285mph and we just said well it was easy to tell its legit.. " we just cranked up the boost on the supra to 70psi from 40psi and it did it "..
Vipers are terrible Non stable mile cars, The chance of a viper ever going this fast in the mile is very unlikely......
Like i said the car has motec gps and v-box. I was not there in florida but i was in texas and seen the data first hand. I don't believe Heffner or Ray have anything to prove or show by giving out that data unless they want too. But i do know at 1400rwhp what all the numbers and splits were. I would imagine it will make me fall out of my chair to see them after this weekend.... Now i can say that there is not another 16mph left in this car at this point, but there is a good 10 for sure with no head wind...

TEXAS WILL TELL IT ALL SO STAY TUNED
 
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[quote=Mike@AwdMotorsports;2820770]I guess its just that simple man.. Turn up the boost 267mph..

It was that easy 26lbs to 41lbs, 600 rwhp motec taction control working and picked up 13mph to the 1/4 and the rest is history 266...Ford GT is the new mile car PERIOD.......Well a yellow one
 


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