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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesun
I almost bought a fully loaded Vantage S (including the 10k stereo) for 130. It listed at 165 or so. I would not expect to pay more than 90 for the GT, maybe 80 at the end of the year. Brand new and almost identical to the 160 car. Bad time to be selling a Vantage.
The difference is that there was a lot of room to negotiate in the previous cars whereas there is almost none in the new ones. What Aston has done is essentially wipe out the high margin of negotiation that dealers had for a more "fixed" price. You will NOT find a new GT at 90K, let alone 80K this year. Remember, the GT is a 2015 model that won't even be for sale until sometime in the third calendar quarter of this year.
 

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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by terminal_ac

To option out a GT as an S model, dealing with just the Carbon parts

1. a) Carbon Fiber front splitter, rear diffuser, b) side strakes, c) mirror caps, d) rear lamp fills =

Exterior Carbon Pack = $4,545

This price would probably decrease since you can order the exterior Carbon pieces on their own.
All of the Carbon Options you've just listed, building up from a Base V8VGT total $11,529.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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I'm fine with the price differential if Aston Martin is willing to build my car with the interior/exterior black pieces.

These are what I'd like for them to place in my car, which are all standard on the GT:

Black Headlamp bezels
Black side window surround
Clear rear lamps with Black surround
Pure Black Alcantara steering wheel
Black pedals.


These last two may have cost.

Seems the Black interior pack is a priced option (I merely want the Black anodized center console rotary *****, as well as the Black speaker covers and the Black heater vents).

Would also love to switch my 10-spoke Diamond Turned Graphite Rims for the 10-spoke forged alloy graphite painted wheels.

Any thought about getting Aston to move on these??
 
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
All of the Carbon Options you've just listed, building up from a Base V8VGT total $11,529.
Noted. I used old in accurate numbers.

Either way, one still come's out ahead starting from a base GT model.
 
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
The list Stuart posted is the official one except there are some additional options such as carbon fiber exhaust tips and carbon fiber rear luggage cover from Q division that are not listed and we couldn't even find prices for.

So far, what I have seen standard on an S includes:

Carbon splitter and diffuser 6,380
Colored calipers 1,595
Carbon side strakes 1,595
Carbon mirror covers 1,595
10 spoke wheels 3,190
Piano black interior trim 2,270
Cruise and Bluetooth 2,690
Front parking sensors 570
Garage door opener auto-dim mirror 450

Some of the above vary as standard equipment from market to market. As you can see though, the options do add up after a while.
I agree Karl-Franz, those options are all standard on an S, which makes an equivalently optioned V8VGT $120,235

If a Base V8VS was $135K as suggested, there's $15K of savings, which is (coincidentally????) pretty much the exact amount of trunk money Aston was throwing at the 2013 cars still on lots.

That's why I've been saying I don't think residuals are going to be affected as much as some people think. There's only 2 significant differences here:

1. The Trunk money is now official and transparent. You just don't have to haggle to get it anymore.

2. You can get the cool stuff from the 'S' (engine, suspension, exhaust) that you want without having to buy all the carbon etc. if you don't want it.

This is more of a restructuring of the WAY the car is sold than it is about the price it sells for. Yes, there is some decrease in real-world actual purchase pricing, but it isn't nearly as drastic as it might seem.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
This is more of a restructuring of the WAY the car is sold than it is about the price it sells for. Yes, there is some decrease in real-world actual purchase pricing, but it isn't nearly as drastic as it might seem.
Nice way of putting it Stuart. My main issue is that I tried to get my car built with those "Black" pieces, and got resistance with respect to getting that done.

Here it is now, and their offering the darn car for less with all the specific parts that I wanted as standard!

Surely, AM should be willing to build my car with those specific parts, as opposed to what they normally would have used (and without additional cost)?
 
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by terminal_ac
Nice way of putting it Stuart. My main issue is that I tried to get my car built with those "Black" pieces, and got resistance with respect to getting that done.

Here it is now, and their offering the darn car for less with all the specific parts that I wanted as standard!

Surely, AM should be willing to build my car with those specific parts, as opposed to what they normally would have used (and without additional cost)?
I'd really consider cancelling your V8VS order and switching to the V8VGT!
 
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This is now officially one if the longest discussion threads we've ever had.
 
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by telum01
I'd really consider cancelling your V8VS order and switching to the V8VGT!
I mentioned that I wanted to cancel, and was informed that I wouold have to wait until someone purchased my car on order before I would be refunded my deposit.

(mind you, Aston hasn't even started building the car yet )
 
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 12:28 PM
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^^^^That's messed up.
 
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^^^^That's messed up.
Agreed... I don't know why you wouldn't be able to cancel unless the dealership was trying to hold the sale so they could get the difference in sale price between the S and GT...
 
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Agreed... I don't know why you wouldn't be able to cancel unless the dealership was trying to hold the sale so they could get the difference in sale price between the S and GT...
I haven't pushed the issue, but the salesman must think I'm an idiot.
 
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I'd expect better from an AM dealer and wouldn't put up with them trying to weasel you, if that's what's happening. If push comes to shove, cancel the order outright and buy the V8VGT from another dealership. Good luck either way, hopefully it gets sorted.
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
I agree Karl-Franz, those options are all standard on an S, which makes an equivalently optioned V8VGT $120,235

If a Base V8VS was $135K as suggested, there's $15K of savings, which is (coincidentally????) pretty much the exact amount of trunk money Aston was throwing at the 2013 cars still on lots.

That's why I've been saying I don't think residuals are going to be affected as much as some people think. There's only 2 significant differences here:

1. The Trunk money is now official and transparent. You just don't have to haggle to get it anymore.

2. You can get the cool stuff from the 'S' (engine, suspension, exhaust) that you want without having to buy all the carbon etc. if you don't want it.

This is more of a restructuring of the WAY the car is sold than it is about the price it sells for. Yes, there is some decrease in real-world actual purchase pricing, but it isn't nearly as drastic as it might seem.
This seems pretty accurate. If it's true that there is significantly less difference in what a buyer will actually pay for a car now compared to what we've been assuming, then the "benefit" of the publically announced price slashing is small -- the buyer gets a somewhat better deal. However, they've upset current owners by potentially skewering resale value (time will tell).

Moreover, the damage done to the perception of the Vantage's -- and Aston Martin's -- standing in the exotic car heirarchy remains very real. One needs only to read this thread to see that. IMO, they should have instead launched a marketing campaign touting how good these cars really are, how they've been developed and honed over the car's life, how truly advanced VH not only was but still is, etc., rather than shouting that they're not as great as we thought, not really worth the money, not actually worth a premium over a Porsche. That would have been a far better way to improve sales. What they've done, or perhaps more accurately, how they've done it, seems daft.

The GT is a great car (as are all of the Vantages), but the marketing is terrible.
 
Old Apr 22, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by telum01
I'd expect better from an AM dealer and wouldn't put up with them trying to weasel you, if that's what's happening. If push comes to shove, cancel the order outright and buy the V8VGT from another dealership. Good luck either way, hopefully it gets sorted.
I agree. If I canceled, I would use another dealer, but probably won't get a Vantage anyway.

Come on, a sub 100k Vantage to "appeal" to more buyers. My point of buying the Aston was it's limited availability.
 


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