Flying Spur 2015 - Batteries fine but car won't turn ON
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Hi @Johnny Hotspur GT , good news, I finally fixed the issue. Video here: https://bit.ly/369dKkv. Even though I got brand new relays and soldered them into the board, I believe my issue was something else. However, I’m glad I now know how to access this component and tinker with it (ie solder new relays of an updated part #) and put it back with confidence that it will work!
Basically, the last time I turned the car off (before I started experiencing the issue) the steering column lock never really actuated and performed the lock. This is where I learned something new, if the lock never actuated and you go and try to turn the car on, it will NOT let you do so! Do you have any idea as to what would or could cause this lock to not actuate?
Having access to the steering lock module, I figured I’d try removing the pcb again and forcefully put the motor to lock position and reinsert the pcb. Viola! It worked. Something interesting to note is that when I tried to energize the motor while the pcb was inserted, it wouldn’t budge. So I needed to remove the pcb as I didn’t know any other solutions to this issue.
With that in mind, is there some way to force the steering locking module to go into lock position is the car doesn’t do it on the last turn off? Does VCDS have this ability as long as the proper key is present? I have to imagine I’m not the only one who’s ever experienced this.
In summary, the only way for me to fix this issue as of now is to remove the locking module (which would be easy since it never went into locking position) and then desolder the motor from pcb and then apply appropriate 12VDC to motor poles to force it into the lock position. Then put everything back and without affixing to the steering column, insert the connector and put the key in. Now the car startup routine will see the lock is engaged and disengage it. At this point, with the key still in the ignition, put everything back and install the module to the steering column. Once done, take out the key to verify it engages again. That’s it!
Open to finding alternate ways to do this easily or identity the root cause of why it would not engage in the first place.
Notes
1. My motor in the steering locking module was soldered to the PCB.
2. Updated relay part # for the relay is TE V23086-C1001-A403
3. I have updated the images gallery with post soldering images at here: https://bit.ly/3hmoGR1
Basically, the last time I turned the car off (before I started experiencing the issue) the steering column lock never really actuated and performed the lock. This is where I learned something new, if the lock never actuated and you go and try to turn the car on, it will NOT let you do so! Do you have any idea as to what would or could cause this lock to not actuate?
Having access to the steering lock module, I figured I’d try removing the pcb again and forcefully put the motor to lock position and reinsert the pcb. Viola! It worked. Something interesting to note is that when I tried to energize the motor while the pcb was inserted, it wouldn’t budge. So I needed to remove the pcb as I didn’t know any other solutions to this issue.
With that in mind, is there some way to force the steering locking module to go into lock position is the car doesn’t do it on the last turn off? Does VCDS have this ability as long as the proper key is present? I have to imagine I’m not the only one who’s ever experienced this.
In summary, the only way for me to fix this issue as of now is to remove the locking module (which would be easy since it never went into locking position) and then desolder the motor from pcb and then apply appropriate 12VDC to motor poles to force it into the lock position. Then put everything back and without affixing to the steering column, insert the connector and put the key in. Now the car startup routine will see the lock is engaged and disengage it. At this point, with the key still in the ignition, put everything back and install the module to the steering column. Once done, take out the key to verify it engages again. That’s it!
Open to finding alternate ways to do this easily or identity the root cause of why it would not engage in the first place.
Notes
1. My motor in the steering locking module was soldered to the PCB.
2. Updated relay part # for the relay is TE V23086-C1001-A403
3. I have updated the images gallery with post soldering images at here: https://bit.ly/3hmoGR1
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I have an Immobil Active message while my windows were down. I used the remote key fob lock button. Long press it and the windows roll up.
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Hi @Johnny Hotspur GT , good news, I finally fixed the issue. Video here: https://bit.ly/369dKkv. Even though I got brand new relays and soldered them into the board, I believe my issue was something else. However, I’m glad I now know how to access this component and tinker with it (ie solder new relays of an updated part #) and put it back with confidence that it will work!
Basically, the last time I turned the car off (before I started experiencing the issue) the steering column lock never really actuated and performed the lock. This is where I learned something new, if the lock never actuated and you go and try to turn the car on, it will NOT let you do so! Do you have any idea as to what would or could cause this lock to not actuate?
Having access to the steering lock module, I figured I’d try removing the pcb again and forcefully put the motor to lock position and reinsert the pcb. Viola! It worked. Something interesting to note is that when I tried to energize the motor while the pcb was inserted, it wouldn’t budge. So I needed to remove the pcb as I didn’t know any other solutions to this issue.
With that in mind, is there some way to force the steering locking module to go into lock position is the car doesn’t do it on the last turn off? Does VCDS have this ability as long as the proper key is present? I have to imagine I’m not the only one who’s ever experienced this.
In summary, the only way for me to fix this issue as of now is to remove the locking module (which would be easy since it never went into locking position) and then desolder the motor from pcb and then apply appropriate 12VDC to motor poles to force it into the lock position. Then put everything back and without affixing to the steering column, insert the connector and put the key in. Now the car startup routine will see the lock is engaged and disengage it. At this point, with the key still in the ignition, put everything back and install the module to the steering column. Once done, take out the key to verify it engages again. That’s it!
Open to finding alternate ways to do this easily or identity the root cause of why it would not engage in the first place.
Notes
1. My motor in the steering locking module was soldered to the PCB.
2. Updated relay part # for the relay is TE V23086-C1001-A403
3. I have updated the images gallery with post soldering images at here: https://bit.ly/3hmoGR1
Basically, the last time I turned the car off (before I started experiencing the issue) the steering column lock never really actuated and performed the lock. This is where I learned something new, if the lock never actuated and you go and try to turn the car on, it will NOT let you do so! Do you have any idea as to what would or could cause this lock to not actuate?
Having access to the steering lock module, I figured I’d try removing the pcb again and forcefully put the motor to lock position and reinsert the pcb. Viola! It worked. Something interesting to note is that when I tried to energize the motor while the pcb was inserted, it wouldn’t budge. So I needed to remove the pcb as I didn’t know any other solutions to this issue.
With that in mind, is there some way to force the steering locking module to go into lock position is the car doesn’t do it on the last turn off? Does VCDS have this ability as long as the proper key is present? I have to imagine I’m not the only one who’s ever experienced this.
In summary, the only way for me to fix this issue as of now is to remove the locking module (which would be easy since it never went into locking position) and then desolder the motor from pcb and then apply appropriate 12VDC to motor poles to force it into the lock position. Then put everything back and without affixing to the steering column, insert the connector and put the key in. Now the car startup routine will see the lock is engaged and disengage it. At this point, with the key still in the ignition, put everything back and install the module to the steering column. Once done, take out the key to verify it engages again. That’s it!
Open to finding alternate ways to do this easily or identity the root cause of why it would not engage in the first place.
Notes
1. My motor in the steering locking module was soldered to the PCB.
2. Updated relay part # for the relay is TE V23086-C1001-A403
3. I have updated the images gallery with post soldering images at here: https://bit.ly/3hmoGR1
I wanted to confirm one thing before diving in. I know you said that your problem was that your steering lock WASNT engaged, but do you confirm this by being able to turn the wheel? My wheel does seem to be locked when I try to move it, that would mean the steering lock is engaged, making it a different situation than yours. Am I reading that right?
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