Heres my take on the cost debate from someone whos been there and done that. $15grr isn't out of line what so ever. This isn't bolting a KB blower on, changing the pulley, and mailing your ecu out to have someone throw a generic tune in it.

I can tell you with the viper stuff, $15grr doesn't cover COST on the hard parts. I'm not talking tuning, install, internal motor upgrades, driveline, etc. Just the turbo kit, turbos, exhaust, intercoolers, and all cold side parts. When you're dealing with top quality materials and top not craftsmen it just cost more.

Price out some 321 stainless U bends sometime, and take into account the hours it takes to fab/weld up the headers, machine them to make sure everything is straight after you finish the probably 15ft of linear welding, and send them off to get ceramic coated. $3k for headers, HA! You're not buying pre-fab stuff for a 70 chevelle, this is pretty much considered custom, one off, top quality stuff, and it's priced accordingly.

At the end of the day remember it has to be worth their time and effort to even bother taking on such a project. And when you figure they might sell 10-15 of them in the next year, it will be priced accordingly so as to recover their R&D investment and try to pay the electric bill.

Just for comparison sake take a look at what a reputable viper shop charges for TT kits. The bare bones starter packages are $30grr and you can triple that without blinking an eye. I commend EVO for even being able to get it done for $15grr and have it be worth opening their tool box to start the project.

 

Gary,

Thanks for the info.

 

Where are you getting 15k from ? It seems the kit is 17k for the Cayenne turbo S and 19k for the Cayenne Turbo. Am I missing something?

 

Your numbers are correct.

 

Just when I was about to go ape**** over 15K the cost is now 19K? You guys have got to be ****tin' me!!! 19K FOR WHAT??? LOL! I dare anyone here to add up the cost of these parts and if you can justify spending even 10K I'll buy two of the SOB's! I think it's about time for me to sign off this thread for good because I'm not into defaming anyone or sabotaging EVO's chance to get rich but I will say this. Evolution Motorsports would sell a hell of a lot more kits if they were priced right. I'm prepared to buy mine right now but not at the cost of what two of these kits are worth... 19K spent and you STILL need transmission upgrades. Bad deal.

 

Let's compare that same $19K from the factory, from 450 hp now you're at 500 hp and you could spend that same thing for antoher 250-300 hp, and as for warranty? Based on what I've seen, EVOMS more than warranties their work and helps to further tune it as it needs to be. Whether it is 15K or 19K, from what I've seen, this seems like a smokin deal. You gotta pay to play, and to play with 700hp for less than $20K is incredible. Oh, and one other thing, have you ever tried to remove a turbocharger from a cayenne TT? Not an easy task, depending on how quick you can drop the engine/transmission/front suspension, once you get that done, its not too bad but simply the R&R of the turbos is a very labor intensive process. My .02

 

You dont need a transmission upgrade, its fine as is. Also its in line with the GT700 package that evoms offers on the 911 turbo. I think the price is a little high, but I think it's still worth it. More so on the Turbo than the Turbo S, but I am still probably going to get mine done soon.

 

Just in case anyone was wondering, the 700 HP is on 100 octane, 650 hp is on 94 octane.

 

Wow, you don't seem too familiar with the high end tuner market. The "parts" are the easy part. The engineering and tuning are the difficult parts.

Why don't you go out and build yourself a 700 HP Cayenne and tell all of us about it. Show us what idiots we are.

Also, you don't need a tranny upgrade for the GT700 upgrade. The stock tranny seems to handle 700 HP very well. I'm talking to EVOMS about a GT800 or GT900 kit which will require a tranny upgrade. Guess what, it's another $20k!!! And I feel like I'm still getting a good deal! I'm such a sucker.

Good luck with your build. Try some of the other Porsche tuners and let me know how much you save. Or, please keep us posted on your one off 700 HP project for less than $19k.

 

I had the truck on the dyno here in Colorado. It made 560 WHP and 658 TQ on an all wheel Dynojet. Not bad for $19k!!!

 

John's Cayenne is incredible, I've never felt anything this heavy go this fast. If there's anyone debating it, dont debate it anymore, buy it! Drives totally stock until you want it all unleashed.

 

Anybody bought this turbo kit yet? I wanna hear some performance reviews from the many of you who think that this is a great deal for $21,000. Not a knock on Evo cause I wanna purchase one but only when the price comes back to reality...

 

See post #145...or any others in this thread by Evo650.

 

Yes Porschespeedem, I'm quite aware of what EVO650 has done with this kit. I'm seeking feedback from others who were telling me what a deal this was and how they were getting the kit. Surely they must have theirs by now at a paltry $21,000???

 

Turbo 955--You do realize that Gemballa in California charges 30+k for their GT750 Kit.....and they need the car for AT LEAST a month....EVO is the first to actually release a kit that has the same power for about half the price.....GO EVO MS!!! Hopefully sometime soon they will be strappin new turbo's to my CTT!!!!