HOLY HELL!!!! That thing is sooooooooooooo fast! What kind of brakes did you upgrade to todd?

 

Thanks for all of the feedback. I will have pricing and more data posted shortly. The components that make up the EVO GT700 upgrade are as follows:

· EVO / Garrett GT700 Turbochargers installed into the OEM IHI Housings: Direct replacement – no modifications (2)*
· CNC machined billet oil line inlet adapters (2)
· CNC machined billet water line adapters (4)
· Custom water lines for turbo cooling (4)
· Custom oil drain housings (2)*
· EVO larger 3.5� MAF housings w/ new MAF sensors
· EVO larger turbo air inlet ducts
· EVO / GIAC custom tuned proprietary 650 / 700 HP ECU calibration w/ Race gas option and flashloader w/ kill and valet modes (1)*
· EVO 100 cell HJS Motorsport 70mm primary catalysts pipes (2)*
· EVO 70mm stainless steel secondary catalyst bypass pipes (2)
· EVO / Milltek 70mm sport exhaust system (1)
· Clubsport intercooler upgrade (2)
· Upgraded intercooler hose couplers w/ clamps (4)
· EVO V-Flow X2 Cayenne TT high flow intake system (2)
· EVO CNC machined billet diverter valves (2)
· EVO GT700 machined hood badge (1)

*denotes OEM items that are modified

Optional Components:

· EVO / Porsche 380mm front brake upgrade system
· EVO / Porsche 355mm rear brake upgrade system
· EVO GT700 black twin exhaust tips
· EVO suspension lowering module

 

Thank you. Listed below is more information about brakes with pictures and pricing. I will be posting more detailed information in a new thread shortly.

EVO / Porsche Clubsport 380mm Front Brake Upgrade System:

• 380mm x 38mm vented and gas slotted disks with stainless steel hub adapters (OEM rotors are 350mm x 34mm) (2)
• Larger 6-piston Porsche / Brembo monobloc calipers w/ carriers (2)
• Larger dust / ventilation backing plates (2)
• OEM caliper carrier bolts (4)
• OEM grade brake pads (1 set)
• OEM grade brake pad sensors (2)

Price: $2850

Optional components:

• Matching rear OEM 330mm x 28mm slotted rotors $385
• 355mm x 28mm rear complete brake upgrade to match the front $TBD

 

I must be careful with my approach to this subject because I don't want to come off as a jerk or someone lacking knowledge of what it takes to perform R&D... First off, I think that Evolution Motorsports deserves a lot of credit to develop and turbo kit for the Cayenne Turbo that will satisfy the needs of us horsepower junkies. I'm sure that countless man hours goes into developing a turbo kit that produce in excess of 550 AWHP. I'm a forced induction junky in my own right, being fortunate enough to own a SL55, turbo GSXR 1000 and a 700 WHP Supra. I know what these parts cost to manufacture because I've bought them for 15 years modifying 300Z's, RX 7's and the like... I guess you guys know where this is headed? I'm not frugal by any stretch of the imagination and I want the Cayenne Big Turbo Kit BAD! But first I'm gonna come out and say what the masses are afraid to say: How does one justify asking $15,000 for this kit? I know R&D costs but I've already added the cost of the parts in this kit and lets just say it's nowhere near 5 digits... Before this gets out of context by anyone I'd like to say that this thread was posted by someone who appreciates what the vendor is offerering but thinks the price is a bit extreme. This thread was not intended to start an internet riot.

 

The EVOMS price for this kit is actually very competitive when you take into consideration the cost to mod any high end vehicles. Take a look at the price for a Renntech or Kleemann supercharger for a Mercedes. With installation these kits can easily exceed more than $15k and make less power.

The effort that went into the design of this kit was substantial. It took them 6 months to build the kit used on my truck. There's far more that goes into engineering these kits than anyone realizes. This truck will run all day in the low 12's and is more driveable (less lag) than stock.

I have the mod bug big time and I just can't leave anything stock. I've used Kleemann, Renntech, Lingenfelter, and EVOMS. I also built a 900 HP Evolution 8. So far EVOMS is the best bang for the buck! $15k seems like a lot of money until you take this thing for a spin.

You can always call RUF, get 150 less horsepower and spend an additional $3k!

 

Well yes, it is well documented that companies like Ruf, Kleeman and Renntech severely overcharge for their parts, i.e. $3,000 headers and more ridiculous stuff like that. I was kinda hoping that after reading so many good things about how you were progressing with this kit that it would be a bit more affordable but I understand... Does your cost include labor or is the $15K just in parts alone?

 

Well to be honest 3k for headers isnt that bad. The headers for some of my cars are about that and they are japaness... The rule of thumb is the more expensive your car the more expensive it is to play...
I want to say thought that the kit evo has made looks GREAT for the price. If i get the CTT i will definetly stop buy and do some shopping...

Heck think about it used CTT for like 70k +25k in upgrades and your still sitting 15k cheaper then a new CCT-S

 

Also, what boost pressure/ignition timing are you utilizing with 93 octane gas? Is there a mechanism available for ECU tuning to be able to utilize a methanol kit which will allow more boost and timing? Will the stock transmission be able to hold 550+ AWHP for an extended period of time without a rebuild? Lastly, do you offer Catalytic Converter test pipes? I'm talking about the main cats off the turbos... I would imagine that there are moderate gains to be had there...

 

Come on Me_Qwkr are you kidding me? Check this out: I purchased a Renntech pulley and ECU for my SL55 for $5000. I then purchased a ECU and pulley upgrade for my brothers Ford Lightning Supercharged for $400! Am I missing something here? All that sh*t is made the same way, I dont care if it's a Maybach or a Mustang! The part that kills me is when the masses get suckered into thinking that it's "Okay" for German car tuners to overcharge by 300% for most of their stuff because the vehicles are already so overpriced...

 

The stock tranny might be the weak link but we don't know yet. The Cayenne uses the same tranny as the Audi RS6. Level Ten has a tranny upgrade for about $6k to $7k that can handle over 1000 ft/lbs of torque.

 

Level Ten has sold inferior transmissions to the Supra community for years ... If you even mention that companys name on Supraforums you'd likely get banned... LOL

 

First off there is the R&D... The R&D for the Ford vs the Mercedes is not even close. Secondly there is the company you buy the product from. I can buy a set of H&R springs for 300 or a set of Ground control for 150... the thing is you pay for quality and name. Your ECU for the SL is a little harder to tune then the ECU on the Lightening. but for exhausts and stuff I will say euro cars do over charge. But then again who wants to put a magna flow on their SL or Turbo?

 

How many people do you think are in the market for a Cayenne upgrade (or any high end car) versus a Ford?

The market for modifiying Fords is huge compared to those who modify Porsche or Mercedes. The R&D needs to be amortized over a certain number of units. If the market demand is low than the price per install will be higher. I don't think that there's such a thing as a stock Ford Lightning anymore!

Also, have you ever been to EVOMS or Kleemann? Compare their shop, service, tech skill levels, etc., to those who handle Ford, etc. There's a huge difference in overhead. People who buy Mercedes and Porsche expect a higher level of customer service, skill sets, and support which costs money.

As I said earlier I had a highly modified Evo 8. Look at the website of www.automotosports.com. They charge $6k plus for an after market turbo kit which doens't include labor or tuning. EVOMS built twin GT30r (ball bearing turbos into the stock housing.

Do the "high end" tuners make more margin? Of course they do. However, I still feel that EVOMS is the best bang for the buck.

 

That's actually good to know as I was thinking of using them. Is there anyone that you recommend? Thanks for the heads up!

 

Yes, $6,000 is the going rate for a nice turbo kit. No problem whatsoever with that but we're talking 15 G's here! As for Level 10, it's been 5 years or better since I've heard of anyone in the Supra community using that company so I couldn't comment on their latest offerings but personally I utilize a companys transmission in my 700HP Supra by the name of BoostLogic. Their transmission costs $2,000 and is currently being utilized by various 9 second Supras throughout the country. They're based in Austin, TX and you may call 512-371-9960 and ask for either Kean **** or Zohair Jaffery. Good guys. Tell 'em Gary sent ya...