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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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need some help...

I have a midnight blue 996tt paint is in good shape... but in the bright sun I have some swirls.. spider webs.. not sure what we are calling them now adays.. but I need a product that will remove.. fill them hide them... I have a porter cable orbital with orange foam pads... so what would be the best product for my car.. I want the paint to look glossy and wet looking with no swirls... also then after that whats the better wax to use to keep it looking good.. or are we saying that wax is not good to use...?

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Its tough to say, but I would try Menzerna Super Intense polish (SIP). If that doesn't work, try another pass with the same setup. But what I would recommend is that you buy some Menzerna 106FA or 85rd to follow up the SIP to get the paint super glossy and free of any marring. Also purchase a white pad and a finishing pad (black or blue) for the 106FA and 85rd. Then I would use either Zymol HD cleanse or P21S cleansing lotion. After that use Zymol and you won't be disappointed. Let me know if you need any more information.
 
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I would second paul's suggestion with Menzerna SIP followed by po85rd (or 106FA). I haven't used any of the Zymol products, but I hear nothing but good things. I've had great results einszett Glanz Wax.

Also, make sure you clay bar the painted surfaces after the wash, before you start polishing.

Good luck and post pics when you're done!
 
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Keep it simple...You already have a great polish, SIP, and the right pad, orange. Get the 106 and white pad to finish after the SIP. If going the synthetic route, use a wax like einszett glanz. If going the natural route, zymol hd-cleanse polish by hand and then apply a wax like zymol Titanium or zymol Concours. Hope this helps.
 
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anyone try the gloss it products yet?
 
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Zymol Glasur also works very well.


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Originally Posted by detailjohn
Zymol Glasur also works very well.
Can anyone compare Glasur to Concours? I'm using Concours now, but I know that Glasur is popular on other forums.
 
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Originally Posted by EMart
Can anyone compare Glasur to Concours? I'm using Concours now, but I know that Glasur is popular on other forums.
The technical data:

Glasur: 100% Yellow Concours: 90% White and 10% Yellow
Glasur: 56% carnauba by volume Concours: 47% carnauba by volume
Glasur: $101 Concours: $175
Glasur: Created for Porsche paint (can be used on other makes) Concours: One of the original waxes created by zymol over 20 years ago and can be used on ALL paints

Zymol Glasur Glaze contains: carnauba wax 56% (100% yellow by volume - derived from Palmetto), Montan Oil, Coconut Oil, Banana Oil, Cinnamon Oil, Propolis (derived from bees), Cetyl Esters, Cetyl Cocoamide (derived from coconut oil) and FD&C Yellow #5.

Zymol Concours Glaze contains: White and Yellow Carnauba Wax 47% by volume (90% White, 10% Yellow - derived from Palmetto), Montan Oil, Coconut Oil, Banana Oil, Cinnamon Oil, Propolis (derived from Bees), Cetyl Esters, Cetyl Cocoamide (derived from coconut oil) and FD&C Yellow #5.

So the main difference based on above is the quality of the carnauba. I'm told white is more desired since it's processed to be more pure. Also, the oils used in the waxes play a key role in the final "look" of the finish. In this case, most of the oil seem to be similar.

Hope this helps.
 
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what is the difference of the menzerna 106fa and the po85rd? is one better then the other for my dark paint color?

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Well either polish is going to have the same effect on the paint color.

The difference between those two is the actual cut of the polish. 106ff is more of a medium grade polish. PO85RD is a finishing polish, so it will have less of a cut in comparison to the 106ff.

If you are applying with a PC, then then 106 should be more than sufficient. The goal in using either of those polishes is to remove any possible marring that is going to be inflicted by using SIP with the orange pad. 106 is likely to be better suited for that task. If you wanted to have the best possible finish, then you could follow then 106 on the white pad with PO85RD on either a white pad or a black pad. This would remove any possible marring from the 106, and tighten up your reflections slightly.

Honestly though, when using something like the PC and a combo like 106 and a white pad, you won't need to follow that with anything in order to achieve an awesome result. So you can save yourself the trouble of doing a final step and get an almost identical result.
 
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