991 GT3 or C7 Z06?
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C7 Z06 on slicks will be dominating track days.
GT3 is not approved for slicks.
C7 Z06 = Track day dominance.
GT3 = Best recreational driving experience on public roads.
It just depends where your priorities are.
GT3 is better, all around, for more types of real world use.
GT3 is not approved for slicks.
C7 Z06 = Track day dominance.
GT3 = Best recreational driving experience on public roads.
It just depends where your priorities are.
GT3 is better, all around, for more types of real world use.
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C7 Z06 on slicks will be dominating track days.
GT3 is not approved for slicks.
C7 Z06 = Track day dominance.
GT3 = Best recreational driving experience on public roads.
It just depends where your priorities are.
GT3 is better, all around, for more types of real world use.
GT3 is not approved for slicks.
C7 Z06 = Track day dominance.
GT3 = Best recreational driving experience on public roads.
It just depends where your priorities are.
GT3 is better, all around, for more types of real world use.
Subtract the skill and consistency needed for manual shifting, and suddenly many DCT cars are part of the equation.
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The C7Z will dominate on slicks statement is ONLY valid if the current Viper GTS/TA and ZR1 currently dominate on slicks (with less expensive rotor replacement for the Viper).
Subtract the skill and consistency needed for manual shifting, and suddenly many DCT cars are part of the equation.
Subtract the skill and consistency needed for manual shifting, and suddenly many DCT cars are part of the equation.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
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I would not worry about skill for manual shifting.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
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I would not worry about skill for manual shifting.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
Watch from 4.25...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocSjiJbevaU#t=11
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Is the faster car always a better track car?
I'm not trying to convince, just bring up some points. A few you may have missed earlier:
- The Z06 will weigh 300-400lbs more than the GT3, granted a minor point.
- How many Z-06 owners will convert to iron brakes or stop doing track days after going through their CC brakes?
- A supercharged car is prone to heatsoak and is not ideal for track days, to my knowledge.
- The convertible won't be allowed on any track.
Why isn't the Viper mentioned? It's already out, has lap records, is reliable and has a more suitable drive train and brakes.
MRLS lap records, most by Randy Pobst and a few other pro drivers:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/
I would not worry about skill for manual shifting.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
- The Z06 will weigh 300-400lbs more than the GT3, granted a minor point.
- How many Z-06 owners will convert to iron brakes or stop doing track days after going through their CC brakes?
- A supercharged car is prone to heatsoak and is not ideal for track days, to my knowledge.
- The convertible won't be allowed on any track.
Why isn't the Viper mentioned? It's already out, has lap records, is reliable and has a more suitable drive train and brakes.
MRLS lap records, most by Randy Pobst and a few other pro drivers:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/
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Is the faster car always a better track car?
I'm not trying to convince, just bring up some points. A few you may have missed earlier:
- The Z06 will weigh 300-400lbs more than the GT3, granted a minor point.
- How many Z-06 owners will convert to iron brakes or stop doing track days after going through their CC brakes?
- A supercharged car is prone to heatsoak and is not ideal for track days, to my knowledge.
- The convertible won't be allowed on any track.
Why isn't the Viper mentioned? It's already out, has lap records, is reliable and has a more suitable drive train and brakes.
MRLS lap records, most by Randy Pobst and a few other pro drivers:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/
I'm not trying to convince, just bring up some points. A few you may have missed earlier:
- The Z06 will weigh 300-400lbs more than the GT3, granted a minor point.
- How many Z-06 owners will convert to iron brakes or stop doing track days after going through their CC brakes?
- A supercharged car is prone to heatsoak and is not ideal for track days, to my knowledge.
- The convertible won't be allowed on any track.
Why isn't the Viper mentioned? It's already out, has lap records, is reliable and has a more suitable drive train and brakes.
MRLS lap records, most by Randy Pobst and a few other pro drivers:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/
Second - I don't think I've ever seen a convertible GT3 on a track... or anywhere.
Apples to watermelons.
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I haven't seen a 'vert GT3 either!
Btw, OT, saw the GT-R Nismo and the 'Ring car at Goodwood. The Nismo crashed but the 'Ring car sounded distinctly different....
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You would pick each car for different reasons. I don't think the two demographics are one in the same. Apples and Oranges.
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I would not worry about skill for manual shifting.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
So if guys are shopping for the faster track day car, it already exists with a superior set-up.
As far as pricing, a safe bet is the $100k range anyway. I would be shocked if it undercuts the C6 ZR1 by a significant amount. And the Z07 packaged C6 Z06 was over $90k already.
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I would not worry about skill for manual shifting.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
There are plenty of guys, who can handle a manual on track, and may even prefer it.
It's going to be hard for a car, of the same weight, to compete with a car that has twice the torque.
We know the engineering is better on the GT3, as it is an efficient package.
Nevertheless, with mods, the vette will run away.
It's not even fair, since it has FI and 65% more displacement.
Give it yet another 100 ft-lb, slicks and upgraded brakes and you know what will happen.
The GT3 is for people who want a Porsche.
The Z06 will be for people who want a track car (and don't mind adding some mods).
Booth cars are good for their purpose.
As a Porsche owner, it does bother me, but the good news is knowing there is a lower priced alternative for track day use.
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The zo6 will beat the GT3 why is anyone surprised by this? The current zr1 beats the GT3. The corvettes and porsches are always better track cars than anything the competition puts out under 500k. But the porsche will have the refinement, better engineering, etc that the corvette will lack. Also the porsche will be more fun for public roads which you will be on 99% of the time. So if you only care for numbers (meaning your a bench racer/get hard at numbers) then this conversation is irrelevant. People who are seriously considering these cars won't give a damn if one is 2 seconds quicker than the other it is the experience that matters. And the GT3 wins at this in spades. Yes the corvette is a great bargain sports car. Always has been and always will.
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C7 Z06 curb weight released: 3524lbs. 171lbs heavier than the ZR1.
This was predictable based on the C7 to C6 weight increase.
I look forward to 650S lap times, but the Viper TA will still lap quicker than the C7Z based on the weight increase, I predict.
This was predictable based on the C7 to C6 weight increase.
I look forward to 650S lap times, but the Viper TA will still lap quicker than the C7Z based on the weight increase, I predict.
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Game changer pricing for the C7Z: $78,995 base price! I'm shocked. That is pretty amazing.
However the Huracan is putting the $1mil. hybrid supercars on notice with a 2.5 0-60mph, 3.2 5-60mph and 10.4 @ 135mph. A game changer at 1/4 the price.
However the Huracan is putting the $1mil. hybrid supercars on notice with a 2.5 0-60mph, 3.2 5-60mph and 10.4 @ 135mph. A game changer at 1/4 the price.