So my pops got a letter about a recall on his 35..did anybody else get one just curious he didnt tell me too much about it?

 

Post a pic of the letter. I know Nissan has a recall but the 35 was never listed.

 

Nissan has determined that some 2009 model GT-R vehicles may be equipped with an improperly functioning on-board evaporative emissions diagnostic system. The evaporative emissions purge monitor ratio within the Engine Control Module (ECM) may be lower than the OBD-II regulation standard. To correct this condition, Nissan is conducting a Voluntary Emissions Recall Campaign to reprogram the ECM at no charge for parts or labor. See this bulletin for further detail.

 

what about the Transmission recall.. Oh ..almost forgot that will be out soon

 

Yeah... Porsche is immune to recalls. My 02 996TT had the second gear pop-out issue. I waited for Porsche to issue a recall. I guess I was imagining the flaw....

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...lick-here.html

 

All new things have issues guys....it is how the companies handle the claims....that is what is at issue. Come on....calling the water wet gets old after a while.

Getting a 20k bill on a new car for a failed unit is not fun...but if you beat up your car....the question becomes should Nissan remove launch control to save the cost of redesigning a tranny...if that happened, the stats change and marketting changes.....would not want to be that product manager.

Porsche is the originator of the PDK form the 962 and (perhaps an Audi engineer) has been working on it for years. I heard of one car with an error message likely due to a sensor. Not "breaking" from use yet afaik. That will change. I have seen more than 6 cup cars with broken trannies....from doing what they were meant to do..racing. But, those owners did not expect a warranty...it was like owning shoes....the sole wears out in time if you use them. Expected.

The issues are all about owner expectations....that is a moving target and key to market success in a street car. Nissan just has to figure out what they plan to do to make things right within that dimension. Me, I'd remove the launch control or do a better tranny AND remove launch control....so you can add hp later .....now it may not be safe to mod a stock R35.

JB

 

Show me a PDK failure that won't be covered by warranty, then you can rejoice.

 

So far it hasn't been that extreme yet to have to replace the tranny. It is a gearing issue/sensor perhaps. Things happen but you haven't seen a 20K umm correction 18K bill from Porsche yet for the alleged problem.

Post a pic of that porsche that has the problem. So far it could a person just saying they had problems. No proof of it yet and I want to see it. I am taking the NISSAN fanboi stance.

Also I find it funny how many NISSAN boys are bashing the Porsche name since the release of a single post from a PDK issue that has/has not happened. It is funny.

 

First year = problems, that is true for most makes and models. The GTR is getting MUCH more attention however due to it's performance against the uber power Porsche. If Nissan decides not to cover the launch control then it's 'buyer beware.' Nissan will iron out this issue next year IMO. When and if they do what will GTR haters ***** about ? My guess is that the compitition will retreat to base, count their casulties, re-arm and strike back.

 

Seeing as how I own a GT-R, I'm following the whole transmission thing fairy closely. So far it appears a guy abused his transmission and the dealer is refusing a warranty repair. That's within the limitations of pretty much every new car warranty I've seen.

Nissan posted on NAGTROC that Launch Control does not "void" the warranty. FWIW this is what Nissan posted there.
That "result of misuse" exception can be found in every manufacturer's paperwork.

 

Most of us understand that it will not "VOID" the entire warranty of the car. That would be plain silly. But if you do not TAKE APART a TRANNY or the techs are not TRAINED to take apart a tranny then the burden of proof falls VERY VERY HEAVILY on Nissan to prove that it was abuse. If you think our laws are tough then Europe will be a diaster for Nissan if this continues. Open up the damn tranny replace the gear or gears that the guy if accused of abusing and send him on his merry way. To tell him that the BLACK BOX said so from a TECH in Japan will not cut the mustard. Tell him to pay for a $18K transmission is not how it should have been handled. When you first introduce a car like this from Nissan and with all its technology expect some abuse but also put some funds away FOR GOOD WILL so that the image is not tainted too early on. It would help them go a long way for customer service which Nissan is not that well known for.

I personally do not want a NISSAN GTR CERTIFIED TECH calling some guy in Japan everytime he has a question. Train your people right or don't sell the car.

If you look up BMW and Dashboards you will find they replaced many and I mean many way AFTER the warranty and even after a few title transfers. They have GOOD WILL money knowing that SH*IT happens and sometimes you have to make those calls to save face and to show that you are willing to meet some people half way for their mistakes. Case by case..

I have tested this many times with BMW and they haven't failed me yet. I have not tested Porsche because at the slightest problem so far they have gone the distance.

 

You probably realize that there are multiple failures...not just a single internet user...to which one are you referring to?

 

The one everyone is linking to on NAGTROC was the specific instance I was referring to. I am only aware of two cases where the owner is having to foot the entire transmission rebuild cost themselves. The NAGTROC link, and a guy on Bullrun. The other instances (perhaps 3-4 others) do not specify whether their dealer is making repairs under warranty or the circumstances of the failure.

To be frank the whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. I didn't even see this much FUD the whole Rod-Bearing Recall on the S54 M3 motor, and there were a lot more of those failures (took BMW two years to admit there was a problem on that). I can easily think of a half dozen other real problems on other manufacturer cars that didn't get near the attention this is getting.

 

I can't say for certain how Nissan compares to others as I have only done the routine maintenance so far. To be honest I am actually getting BETTER service with the GT-R than my M3 here in SoCal. I got first rate BMW service in Atlanta, so I can say for certain that Your Mileage may vary when it comes to BMW service.

That said, the warranty is clear on all the cars I have owned that failures caused by abuse will not be covered under warranty. I can't say I disagree with that, and sadly "abuse" is subjective and really depends on your relationship with your dealer.

I would tell anyone that drives their car (regardless of brand) that if you take your car to a track, be prepared to pay for failures or your entire car being totaled out of pocket. I have more than a few buddies that have rolled cars at tracks that had to suck it up and cover the repair. A roasted transmission is no different. Thankfully, the GT-R has a comprehensive set of Transmission gauges for keeping an eye on how it's doing. (oil temperature and oil pressure I believe) which is more information than I had on my BMW.

4,500 RPM AWD clutch dumps do heat the transmission up, so I can see how doing those back to back to back would kill a tranny, but then I would call that abuse too.

 

I have a number of friends with Porsches who've had failures associated with tracking covered by Porsche NA. I don't know the specifics about discussions with service managers, and maybe some will chime in here, but I know of several tranny/diff/coolant hose/shifting issues, and at least a couple of keys sheered at the back of the crank/flywheel on 996GT3s that were covered.

Crashing a car at the track is a whole different "insurance" coverage related discussion.

Mike