My 2014 991 turbo s receives champion's new intercoolers and the new giac stage 2 plu

Old Sep 18, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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That's it, if I get one I'm getting catless....
 
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My 2014 991 turbo s receives champion's new intercoolers and the new giac stage 2 plu

Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
Definitely. Even after consecutive runs in our sauna room, I mean dyno room, IAT's never went higher then 40-41 degrees celcius. With factory intercoolers we were seeing anywhere from 58-62.
Excellent. This is exactly why I had this work done and why I shipped my car down the 1500 miles to Florida and back.

Originally Posted by SamboTT@ByDesign
Very nice guys congrats!
Thanks Sam. Looking forward to the results of your dynos with the ByDesign intercoolers and the Cobb stage 3 tune. It will Be interesting to see the comparison.

Will be even more interesting to see how similarly equipped GIAC stage 2 plus/champion intercooler cars fare against Cobb Stage 3/ByDesign intercooler cars at events. We have a private track day on October 7 at Atco where my car is going as well as several Cobb tuned 991 TTS's but none yet have the ByDesign intercoolers/Cobb Stage 3 and I am not sure if any will have them by the date of the event.

This was a big event that needed to happen for these cars to reach their true power potential as the stock intercoolers are a major bottleneck in the way of optimum performance.
 
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My 2014 991 turbo s receives champion's new intercoolers and the new giac stage 2 plu

Originally Posted by Vic55
That's it, if I get one I'm getting catless....
I'm keeping my Europipe for a bit to ensure I can tolerate the extra noise. There is no question that at higher rpm's the Dyno runs show a significant difference especially in torque
 
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
I'm keeping that you're Okay to ensure I can tolerate the extra noise. There is no question that at higher rpm's the Dyno runs show a significant difference especially in torque
I have a catless exhaust on the Huracan- I love me some noise.
 
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My 2014 991 turbo s receives champion's new intercoolers and the new giac stage 2 plu

Originally Posted by Vic55
I have a catless exhaust on the Huracan- I love me some noise.
My E63 S AMG sedan has the Renntech sport mufflers. That is one very loud car. Love it. Sounds like a 1960s American muscle car inside with those loud mufflers
 
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Nice results! What do you expect to pick up on 100+ octane using the GIAC race gas map?
 
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My 2014 991 turbo s receives champion's new intercoolers and the new giac stage 2 plu

Originally Posted by zerix
Nice results! What do you expect to pick up on 100+ octane using the GIAC race gas map?
Tom is more equipped to answer but I've been told about 25 additional wheel horsepower.

That being said, top shelf unleaded race gas seemed to add a lot more than 25 hp at least at the Albuquerque dragway event during Goldrush Rally 7 where it lowered my ETs by a full half second.
 
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Nice gains for the IC's

IMHO I think the Europipe have a restrictive cats, even so you pick up more or less the gain that I assume (15whp a 17wtq) If the Tubi is too loud for you just put the Tubi 200cel cats on, don't put back the Europipe... Tom@champion can hook you up with a pair of Tubi cats, much better exhaust than Europipe.
 
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Tom how much whp will translate on a load dyno (mustang dyno)? Around 20% less?
 
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My 2014 991 turbo s receives champion's new intercoolers and the new giac stage 2 plu

Originally Posted by webcarconnection
Nice gains for the IC's

IMHO I think the Europipe have a restrictive cats, even so you pick up more or less the gain that I assume (15whp a 17wtq) If the Tubi is too loud for you just put the Tubi 200cel cats on, don't put back the Europipe... Tom@champion can hook you up with a pair of Tubi cats, much better exhaust than Europipe.
Thanks. I'm very very happy with the Dyno results. The difference especially at the higher RPMs where my car was running out of breath or getting too hot is massive.

And the interesting thing about champion's Dyno result is that they don't publish the highest run. They publish the average run. And they keep their Dyno room superhot to try to heat soak the car. That leaves a lower number than they would have if they ran their runs in a cool dyno room. It's a nice way of saying that the way they Dino their cars is actually extremely conservative.

I think I will call their Dyno testing Bikram Dyno. Lol

Of course while the numbers are great the real truth of the effectiveness of these new mods will be demonstrated or not in the real world at the track and dragstrip

This is where my car currently is. Can't wait to get it back
 
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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
Nice gains for the IC's

IMHO I think the Europipe have a restrictive cats, even so you pick up more or less the gain that I assume (15whp a 17wtq) If the Tubi is too loud for you just put the Tubi 200cel cats on, don't put back the Europipe... Tom@champion can hook you up with a pair of Tubi cats, much better exhaust than Europipe.
Um, thanks for the conjecture but the EP system has Emitec 100cpsi cats which are much less restrictive than any 200cpsi cat from any manufacturer.

- Patrick
 
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
Thanks. I'm very very happy with the Dyno results. The difference especially at the higher RPMs where my car was running out of breath or getting too hot is massive.

And the interesting thing about champion's Dyno result is that they don't publish the highest run. They publish the average run. And they keep their Dyno room superhot to try to heat soak the car. That leaves a lower number than they would have if they ran their runs in a cool dyno room. It's a nice way of saying that the way they Dino their cars is actually extremely conservative.

I think I will call their Dyno testing Bikram Dyno. Lol

Of course while the numbers are great the real truth of the effectiveness of these new mods will be demonstrated or not in the real world at the track and dragstrip

This is where my car currently is. Can't wait to get it back
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Um, thanks for the conjecture but the EP system has Emitec 100cpsi cats which are much less restrictive than any 200cpsi cat from any manufacturer.

- Patrick
No offense intended, just my opinion of Tubi vs Europipe (performance & sound)
 
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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
No offense intended, just my opinion of Tubi vs Europipe (performance & sound)
None taken, however performance and sound are different qualities than actual flow.

- Patrick
 
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SDG- i had a '14 with the europipe, ipd plenum, and giac stage 2 with the race (100 oct) maping....I've moved down to Fla and decided to get back into a '14 Turbo S after selling my 1st one for a ftype R...miseed the P car SO much that i had to get another one. That being said i was wondering if u had the same set up prior to the InterCoolers..? Down here in SFla 100 octane isn't close to me sadly as i had it within minutes of me in Michigan. 100 octane was my normal fill. That being said if you had a similar set up prior to the intercoolers how would u say the power feels on 93 octane with the IC's, plenum, EP, and giac stage 2+ in comparison to prior no IC's on RACE FUEL? While i love the numbers everyone posts, I do not track my car, nor run it to the point of heat sinking however down here in S Fla it can get quite hot....Appreciate the feedback while i consider how to move forward on my "new" currently stock car. Me and a few other local boys here in the S Fla area are waiting on my move to see how they want to move forward on their cars..Being Champion is close to me-10 minutes away- it makes them the easy choice and Tom as well as Austin have been wonderful to deal with in the past. I have also spoke with Sam who was wonderful as well. Oddly enough i don't hear or read much of EVO anymore...my 996 was a stage 4gt with Todd and he couldn't have been more customer service orientated in the past. appreciate any and all real world feedback...
 

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