I agree. With a manual you have to upgrade the clutch even with just a 16G! For heavy horsepower applications, you can easily spend >$5k on a clutch/flywheel/shifter.

I just think people with automatics are not as used to having to upgrade them (especially to the tune of $6-8k)

 

I would need to "see it to believe it" with this MKB upgrade. I can really put the tip through its paces and I doubt I would have been happy. As you say 800/900bhp, thats what 630/730 whp? I'm not sure $8/9k is worth it.. It wouldn't be for me.

 

8/9$k ?! 4000euro = 6683.54 USD at least here in Romania

 

Guys,

As I have posted before, I destroyed by tip box at just under 1 bar with the full set up I have. I done my research and contact MKB.

They knew precisely that I was running 700awhp (max). They know that with losses you can add 28% for crank with the standard Porsche tip box.

They charged 4k Euro. You supply your box. It takes one week. They change the housing internal to the box to allow greater number of clutches in N1, N2 etc. They use Kelvar clutches as used in MB motorsport.

They are specialists in this area since they run some serious MB cars including SLR that have been highly modified.

I have run my car at 1.58 bar, which is around the 680-700awhp mark. I have not had any problems at all.

I have however had one issue with the gearbox with a leaky piston in one of the clutches, which cause excessive wear in bank 1. MKB picked the gearbox up, fixed this, and also replaced my Wheelset (diff) free of charge. Their customer service is second to none.

They guarantee the box to 1300nm of tq. Think about that!

I know that Max in Bahrain also had this done.

I have also purchased another tip box and this is currently with MKB for upgrade. This means that I will have a spare for future use. Tip boxes with low mileage are difficult to come by.

I am keeping my car, so it makes sense that I have a spare box ready, should the original one need to go back to MKB for repair.

I understand some people saying that they need to see it for their own eyes, but I recently took someone out in it at Bruntingthrope, who could not believe how good the gear changes were - seemless.

At 1.58 bar I am running high 850+hp to crank.

I cannot recommend them enough. THere is no gain for me other than to help other tip owners understand that there is a cost effective solution.

Also remember, the fact of what they do, means that your gearbox is effectively new. So if you think that you might have to replace the box say at 50-100k miles anyway, it is very cost effective.

Ken

 

Shipping and install bro.

 

How much more can it be? I know people from Romania who are buying cars from US and the shipping is no more that 2000$

 

labor cost in US in high. 9k is what I was thinking about too.

 

Thats me just changed my ATF and Filter. Wasn't that brown and dirty to be honest. I broke open the old filter and it too wasn't all that dirty. Just a very small amount of brass specs.
Thing is I only got 3 ltr out of it when drained
So.....
Filled the box, ran the car through each selector then drained all the ATF again........gave it a flush through.

Took off sump and changed filter, filled again till it ran out of level plug, ran car again and she took another 2 ltr before it ran out the level plug.
So still have to fit my DV's from Ken and I will give it a run tomorrow.
Oil was below 40 deg C all the time.
Frank

 

we are almost done with all the work....everything is installed (alpha28s, rear intake, plenum, tb, y-pipe, injectors,headers this go around, already have exhaust and i/c).

couples issues

1) For some reason the intake hose goes from 3" diameter everywhere down to 2" diameter about 12" away from the turbo and then back to 3" in diameter about 6" away from the turbo. Therefore, we had to use a transition hose to go from the 3" diameter to the turbo (which is closer to 2"). This transition hose is getting sucked in so that is collapses over 0.5 bar. There is a loud whooosh sound when the car is driven because the turbo is essentially sucking air through a straw

You can see in the picture below how the intake silicon expands right before the turbo...the unreinforced black silicon (not shown) we were using to transition the fat hose to the turbo is whats collapsing...

2)No place for the second fuel pump....since its a tip it can't go in the normal spot (right next to the 1st fuel pump), and since I put vivid's 3" y-pipe in, there is no room to put the fuel pump next to the air box

Here is a pic of the y-pipe

Any other tips have a second fuel pump? If so, where is it?

Sorry for the crappy pics

 

See the attached photo. It is next to the coolant tank on my car.

 

Thanks for the pic! I will show to my mechanic but I don't think that works since my y-pipe fits differently than yours...

 

I just talked with Justin @ Champion Motorsport. They have done several 996 Tiptronic builds. They charge $5,999 for the upgrade (valve bodies and modified clutch packs; no TCU or TC). As far as I can tell, they are the only people in the US that have actually done 996 tip builds. If interested, give Justin a call...he was very helpful on the phone!

Glad to know someone in the US has done them!

 

I mounted my aux fuel pump on the support beneath the transmission.

 

Thanks for the info Ben!

 

PDF of the tranny I found online

http://www.ganzeboom.net/images1/gan...edes/722.6.pdf