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Making the 996 TT REV more freely ?

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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Making the 996 TT REV more freely ?

Apart from adding a 997 GT3 RS which I intend to do sooner or later, what can be done meanwhile to make a 996 TT Tip rev more freely ??
 
Old Dec 28, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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What level of mods are you at?
Flash and Good exhaust at first.
 
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I think I have tried just about everything I guess the issue is that the TT just doesn't rev well or high, if I had a manual I would do a lightweight flywheel, it seems one small hope is the lightweight pulley but thats all
 
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Air inlet pipes to turbos which is tricky as most hard pipes won't fit as well with a tip without modifying, and you could try the lightened and smaller crank pulley. Someone on here did that and said the total power was not really changed but it helped with spool and revving as you are reducing the rotating mass of the crank. Air filter and box may help but is probably not worth it due to maf issues and the like. You could also do a higher stall converter so engine hits boost range quicker and this will help with drag racing but may affect drivability.
 
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it sounds like the op isnt worried about faster spool or more boost. he is wanting a higher revving car like the gt3. my tt revs to 7200 rpm but im thinking he wants his to rev to 8000 or more and i doubt thats likely with the tt engine
 
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If you want that free-rev get yourself a lightweight flywheel. The difference when switching is very different. It's pretty amazing to have the revs shoot up so quickly and effortlessly. The stock FW is indeed pretty heavy. There are many different LWFWs to consider, some with less mass than others.

You will probably need a combo with a new clutch kit. Do some research because some kits are known to engage similar to OEM such as GMG while others are so aggressive that engagement is like an on/off switch. I enjoyed my original setup but it eventually became too much for daily driving. I ended up going back to stock. But that doesn't mean it wasn't any good or that you shouldn't get a LWFW/Clutch Kit... Just find the one that suits you.

Checkout the throttle response and free-rev on the Sharkwerks LWFW. Stock ones don't do this.
http://youtu.be/AM8LgjczJis
 

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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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I understand you said you do not want to do a LWFL at this time, but WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!

One of the 1st things I noticed about this platform is the lack of exotic sound and exotic free revving engine. I myself was debating about the LWFW, until I drove the car more and the engine revved more like an older production car then a exotic experience that I was hoping for. I remember trying to heel and toe and was waiting for the engine to come up to match which felt like an eternity. If there was two things that transformed this machine to equal the rest of it's exotic performance experience was an exhaust and THE LWFW!!

After the install of the LWFW and my Speedtech 3.0 Exhaust, I just wanted to drive the car for the experience and not just pound out every last ounce of performance.
My 1st response to the LWFW was "this is the way a $160 000 car should feel!!". WHAT A DIFFERENCE and even with the chatter, I would do it all over again without question! The 1st couple times I tried to rev match, I over revved past the point....the motor felt alive, eager, like a high revving racing motor, or like a exotic should behave. Coupling that experience with taking my vacuum cleaner sounding stock exhaust to my Speedtech exhaust at the same time, put a smile on my face more then the extra power I got from all my other mods.....it just changed the experience and I found myself just wanting to drive winding road so I can down shift to heel and toe with my windows open to enjoy the sound!

If I wanted a sterile, but only numbers car I would of picked up another car, so it was important that this metal come alive some more!

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I believe the OP said he has a tiptronic, hence not being able to easily do the LWFW. At least that's how I read it.
 
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add a 75mm plenum, injectors, and tune it... just the plenum alone will help a lot.. may car would barely hit 3k rpms before i added the plenum.. once i added it went to well over 5k.. i did not want the LWFW when i did my clutch, big mistake.. i think it would past 6k rmp with that.. i am adding the plenum from the turbos,new IC's, and headers soon.. this should help, but when i do my clutch next time, i will add the LWFW for sure... check out the Plenum, its one of your biggest bangs for the buck... also, the injector will make your car quicker, thus more responsive... don't worry about adding injectors, the 997 came with bigger ones stock.. john speed would know, didn't the 997 come with two fuel pumps as well? enjoy!!
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCH
I think I have tried just about everything I guess the issue is that the TT just doesn't rev well or high, if I had a manual I would do a lightweight flywheel, it seems one small hope is the lightweight pulley but thats all
Can you tell us?..So we can see where you stand then,,to help..
My rev limiter is 7400 RPM.
I dont think a pulley is going to do anything noticable..
 
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maybe I need the the wider bigger plenum but its lots of labor right ?
 
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There is now lwfw in a tip. Its called a flex plate they are lighter then a lwfw. The torque converter is heavy though. What you need is a 6 speed. The tip is holding the motor by slipping the clutch packs. the tcu is tuned for stock power curves. Not enough demand to justify all the r&d to get the tip working right.
 
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Originally Posted by mod mike
add a 75mm plenum, injectors, and tune it... just the plenum alone will help a lot.. may car would barely hit 3k rpms before i added the plenum.. once i added it went to well over 5k.. i did not want the LWFW when i did my clutch, big mistake.. i think it would past 6k rmp with that.. i am adding the plenum from the turbos,new IC's, and headers soon.. this should help, but when i do my clutch next time, i will add the LWFW for sure... check out the Plenum, its one of your biggest bangs for the buck... also, the injector will make your car quicker, thus more responsive... don't worry about adding injectors, the 997 came with bigger ones stock.. john speed would know, didn't the 997 come with two fuel pumps as well? enjoy!!

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The dual mass fly wheel weights a ton. It was put there to make street driving easier. The quickest way to get it to rev faster is a light weight fly wheel and friction plate assembly. This won't get you more HP/TQ but will get you into the fat part of the HP/TQ faster. The downside is it's expensive (unless your stock system needs to be replaced anyway) and can be a bit grabby (some of the multi disc friction plates help solve this problem). The light weight crank pully won't get you much as the main reason for it is to reduce the issues of crank pin shear caused by the oem pully.
 

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