Im hoping to uderstand - why 3 different shops worked on 1 car in 3 weeks all on the same project?

 

One shop does dynoing the other i used once to put my turbos and fpr. My main shop wss too busy so i used them.

 

nah man, you r definitely skipping some days.




all this to upgrade from 16Gs to 16Gs...

 

Whatever you guys say really is pointless to talk on here. Support is terrible no one at EPL picks up the phone and i have talk to a few people that have left because of this. I really dont care abput negitive rep power whoopdido. Ill just fix it on my own.

 

How does EPL support have anything to do with the poor hardware install job one of the 3 shops did on your end?

How does your remote tuner suppose to know that someone managed to screw up a basic 5bar install? Oh wait your fuel trims were out whack, and you said nothing is wrong.

It's always easier to blame someone else....

 

This thread is closed while I look into this.






I have read the complete thread, including any deletes. It appears 996tt550hp was excited about EPL and their work in the beginning of the thread. 996tt550hp appears to be doing most of the work himself. These cars are complicated to say the least. It is commendable 996tt550hp wants to do most of his own work, however it appears it is a very much a learn as he goes proposition. One must understand when using these forums that some respondents know what they are saying, others know what they are saying but do not give complete information and still others don't have a clue. Members who use this information must remember, free information is worth exactly what it costs you.

996tt550hp, it appears your work was lacking or incomplete. I do not say this in a bad way. You were learning as you went along and there is nothing wrong with this. I also noted you followed some of Tony's advise and ignored other advice ie not removing the external BOV's. Tuning is a package and if you are working with a good turner they have designed, tested and installed many of their products and they know what works and doesn't work. To ignore their recommendations while using their product is just looking for trouble. Count yourself lucky that you didn't experience a major failure.

You also have to understand while your time is your own, for companies like EPL .... time is money and their living. Spending your own extra time while you learn is one thing. Spending someone's extra time who does this for a living is another. It really isn't fair to have Tony go back time and again because what you did wasn't right. Granted it was a learning process for you ..... it was extra work for EPL. Tony through this whole process helped as best he could, but I am sure you can only imagine his frustrations when you made mistakes or simply didn't listen to his advise or instructions. Result being ..... additional EPL time plus his company taking flack for issues beyond his control.

In my opinion, Tony wanted to see your car running as you wished but was at wits end with your "learn as you go" situation. I believe this is why he told you to "get your car to a reputable shop with REAL 996tt experience... Have them call me. Its very simple." He wanted to help but could no longer afford the time involved with your learning process. Again I am not criticizing you, I want you to understand the whole picture as I see it. I think it is great that you want to do as much as your own work as possible. You must also recognize that your mistakes cost someone who does this for a living a lot of extra time and grief. Throughout this whole process, Tony always attempted to help but required someone on the other end that was completely familiar with the 996tt so as to put and end all the extra work. After all the time he had spent trying to help, this was not too much to ask.

I hope you recognize this and I suggest weather you do it in private or on this forum that you give Tony an apology. I know this would make you appear better in the eyes of all the members who have read this thread. It is not as if you are the first one to ever make a 996tt related mistake. It appears Tony has went through this whole ordeal and still wants to help you. Weather you realize it or not, this is a sign of a good sponsor.

I am going to re open this thread. I believe it is a good thread. There is much that other members can learn. I also hope you get your car to the level you so desire. I hope this thread continues, however I will not tolerate any personal attacks or bashing of anyone. This will only lead to a temporary ban, something I rarely due and only with great reluctance.

Again, this is the way I see it and I hope I have everyone's cooperation. Let's all put this in the past and learn from it.

 

...and to think I was gonna unsubscribe from this thread.......
I went to the shop yesterday to say hi to Tony...and he punched me in the face...he has never done that before...

 

Tony is very helpful trying to track it down. Im frustrated myself because i find these problems on my own but i guess thats not the case. Something is wrong somewhere that the other shop did and i cant track it down.

Today i drove my car and all fuel trims were working great the most it went to was -5 to +5 at idle. I was like yes great. Well after 30 min of driving watching my fuel trims bam they go zero and dont move at all again for LT trims. ST trims just go wack at idle to -20 im like wtf light pops on. I did check out my 02 voltage they get up 0.500 to 0.970 volts when the car goes wacked.


Let the car sit for 4 hours restart it and bam fuel trims for LT start working again and ST go back to single digits. What in the world is going on my car runs awhile it goes crazy restart it later in the day it all goes back to normal.


Left pic shows my idle numbers prefect.

Right pic shows my numbers all wacked and engine light popped on.





Guys look at my voltage it doubles for my 02 Sensors and too Tony we talk now in email sorry for all of this. If we can't find the problem im going to do injectors from Tony and new tune.


FPR Checked no leaks
No boost leaks
No exhaust leaks


Have no changed out the MAF yet.

 

O2 B1S2/B2S2... Are you monitoring your post cat O2 sensors?

 

Have you at least cleaned you MAF yet since taking out the old intake? If not get some MAF cleaner from the parts store and clean it.

 

I have cleaned the maf today again. The other bank is just as bad i got a high reading of 1.000 volts thats way to high.

 

Here's more numbers watch after it warms up the car is trying to take away fuel but after i rev it up then it adds fuel really odd.

 

Screenshots of a log are not very helpful. We suggest Durametric because you can copy/paste an entire log which is way more helpful!

You need to monitor O2 B1S1 and O2 B2S1 ... You are monitoring after the catalytic converter which will throw off the actual o2 readings plus they are narrowband o2's so they are useless to monitor your actual AF. The S1 are the o2's that are pre-converter and the most accurate reading (ME7.8 and multiple other ECU's run off a true wideband O2 sensor).

At idle sitting at 1.0 on sensor 1 on both banks is good. That means you are idling at 14.7:1 a/f. Reving my car stays lean just like a stock one does.

Switch your o2's to the S1 on both sides at least for some of this.

 

Sorry here you go attached. I think were getting close to the problem....

 

We've always been close to the problem.