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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vrybad
See, I bolded it for you.
Go ahead and quote the words which indicate that I condone street racing.
You can't.
Actually I can tell you exactly how I arrived at that conclusion. When you jump right in and proudly proclaim kill threads are a regular occurrence in this forum and that even the mods post them it leads one to conclude you are fine with the practice. That's why I wrote this;

Originally Posted by Ray S (Chicago)
It is interesting you seem fine with the practice and happy that you have mods that are also on board with the street racing.
Originally Posted by vrybad
FWIW, I have seen many a vid of cars driving/racing at extremely high speeds on public highways, splitting traffic on both sides, and that scares the hell out of me.
It takes just one mom in a minivan full of kids who can't judge the overtaking speed of the approaching cars that thinks she has time to make a lane change, resulting in being rear-ended by a 180mph missile.

Believe me, I understand your point.
If that's the case it raises the question of where was your objection in this and in all those kill threads you claim to have seen? If you think street racing is dangerous, immature, and silly perhaps you didn't comment because it didn't suit your menstrual cycle at the time? (sorry couldn't resist)

I happen to agree with your "minivan full of kids" comment and that's the reason I chose to comment in this thread. As I posted, I don't think street racing is anything to brag about but reading the comments in this thread it appears I may very well be in the minority with this opinion (fine by me as I've never tailored my opinions around a simple majority view). It's a shame because there are tons of outlets one could use to explore their own personal driving skill and their vehicles limits without risking innocent bystanders with triple digit street play. SCCA, PCA, POC, NASA (to name a few) events are all readily available.

Originally Posted by vrybad
Where the hell have you been since 2005?!
What about your silence in those other numerous threads?
They are there, go back a few pages.
My answer that you missed (See I bolded it for you)

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I can't say I'm often in the 996 turbo forum so I haven't noticed the "TON" you reference.
 
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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Don't worry, Joseph, it's cool.

Ray, I concur(and touche for the menstrual comment back at me:thumbs

I haven't street raced in years.

I was on my way home late one night many years ago from a bar(no drinking) and had two street bikes strafe my car on both sides at 160+, which quite literally scared the crap out of me on an empty, quiet highway.

That was when I came to the realization about the "mom in a minivan".

If I had not stayed in my lane, it would have resulted in the death of at least the biker, maybe me, too.

I cringe when I see some of the vids.

Wish I had a car to currently enjoy and a track close by.

Best.
 
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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Ray, you may be in the minority posting in this thread against street racing, but I’d hope you’re not actually in the minority amongst the Porsche community/car enthusiasts.

Just so that there’s no ambiguity, I think it’s irresponsible and dangerous to street race, and worse still to try to brag about it online. This coming from another fellow PCA instructor. Things can get hairy quickly at speed, and you just increase the chances of harm/damage by doing it in un-controlled conditions on the street. One can enjoy their car being a little smarter.

I say all this having done numerous driving events and racing, having instructed for 10+? years and having lost more than one friend/acquaintance to "accidents". There’s varying degrees of idiocy... And again in my opinion, saying “we all do stupid things at times” is no justification to perpetuate it.
 
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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To the OP...

First mistake - you didn't mention it happened in Mexico

Second mistake - you mentioned "First Kill".. that means you are a newbie and everyone started attacking you. Have you ever seen anyone attack BlackHorseTurbo?

Third mistake - wrong forum to post this. This forum is not how it used to be and most people come here to learn how to fix the door *****.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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Don't tell all the vendors that support this forum that its all about fixing door ***** or they will quit advertising all of their tunes and turbos, and exhaust upgrades. Those don't fix door ***** but they sure can make our cars faster. On the track only of course.


But you're right this was the wrong forum to post in. Lesson learned. I just wish that some people would understand that their opinions are not the only opinions on this subject - or any subject - but that's another post all together. If I could delete the post I would, but can't figure out how to delete it.


Lots of good information on this forum and lots of good people.


BTW, where is the forum for Porsche owners who do more than drive the speed limit? I think I might fit in better where ever that is.


And when I come back here to learn how to change my exhaust bearings and piston return springs I will make sure to drive more slowly.
 
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vrybad
Ray, I concur(and touche for the menstrual comment back at me:thumbs

I haven't street raced in years.

I was on my way home late one night many years ago from a bar(no drinking) and had two street bikes strafe my car on both sides at 160+, which quite literally scared the crap out of me on an empty, quiet highway.

That was when I came to the realization about the "mom in a minivan".

If I had not stayed in my lane, it would have resulted in the death of at least the biker, maybe me, too.

I cringe when I see some of the vids.

Wish I had a car to currently enjoy and a track close by.

Best.
Good enough. Sorry I misinterpreted your initial post.
 
Old Jul 16, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahmet
Ray, you may be in the minority posting in this thread against street racing, but I’d hope you’re not actually in the minority amongst the Porsche community/car enthusiasts.

Just so that there’s no ambiguity, I think it’s irresponsible and dangerous to street race, and worse still to try to brag about it online. This coming from another fellow PCA instructor. Things can get hairy quickly at speed, and you just increase the chances of harm/damage by doing it in un-controlled conditions on the street. One can enjoy their car being a little smarter.

I say all this having done numerous driving events and racing, having instructed for 10+? years and having lost more than one friend/acquaintance to "accidents". There’s varying degrees of idiocy... And again in my opinion, saying “we all do stupid things at times” is no justification to perpetuate it.
Good to know Ahmet!!

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On a sunny day in the Burbank hills, Jay Leno's canary yellow McLaren supercar shatters the silence.

Wedged into the ****pit of the 903-horsepower hybrid P1, Leno darts around a curve and leans into the throttle. With the midday roads free of traffic, the $1.2-million McLaren surges through the canyon with a controlled fury.

"I just can't stop driving it," Leno says at a stop sign, before roaring off again. "It's just a perfect blend of science and technolology.
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Leno's canary-yellow P1 was the first to be delivered to the U.S.

"I just can't stop driving it," Leno said. "It's just a perfect blend of science and technology. ... And you get the anthropomorphic sounds of the engine breathing."

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Old Jul 17, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vrybad
See, I bolded it for you.
Go ahead and quote the words which indicate that I condone street racing.
You can't.
Hmm. Lets look at your signature:

Originally Posted by vrybad signature
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Says the guy with 60-130 time in his signature.. That was on the track I'm sure...

 
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Yes it was. It's what retirees do. We look for irony lol
 
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Good to know Ahmet!!

Gents I'm out of here for the rest of the night. It's my birthday today, my daughter is sleeping and my wife promised me some good 'ole missionary position lovin'....

Talk to you tomorrow.......
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