the 996 is great daily driver.. on of the best the only thta sucked about that car 996c2 was teh floaty front end of the stock suspension, a set of coilovers or m030 should do the trick..

i daily drove my car for 3 years and i puut 30,000 miles on it ,, now im daily driving my 996TT .. who says the pcar isnt a daily car ... if they did id kick their *** hahhahaa

 

Wow, i am truely impressed by the repsonses and knowledge in those thread's, kudo's to M3forum

 

are you being sarcastic?

the m3forum thread was REALLY more informative than the e46fanatics thread. there's that one dude who came out as such an a-hole. you even chimed in on the thread it appears. anyway, take it FWIW.

i would love to get an m3 and supercharge it like you did. i would've kept it lower HP though, just for reliability's sake.

 

No man, not being sarcastic one bit. I was truely surprised, but not now thinking about it because alot of those guys are pretty technical and track their cars/work on them themselves!

I didnt realize and skipped the 2nd thread , yes i did post in that! I love both side's, thats my problem. Hard to decide and to give opinions to people, because they are also very indecisive and i dont know what they are looking for out of the car, nor do they

 

[quote=karlooz]are you being sarcastic?

the m3forum thread was REALLY more informative than the e46fanatics thread. there's that one dude who came out as such an a-hole. you even chimed in on the thread it appears. anyway, take it FWIW.

Who came out bad? I think i know who you speak of, and hes prob the main reason i dont like e46fanatics anymore.

 

LOL, that's right. YOU are the one he jumped on, for what it seemed to me, no reason. gross exaggeration. the "other" guy was GMGM3. after he said that the 996 was notorious for oversteering showed me that he didn't know much about the car. these cars are designed to understeer out of the box.

it's alright, i know how to filter out the constructive from the BS.

[QUOTE=PorscheC4]

 

cool dude... it's all good.

i'm like you. i love both sides. i still want an M3 and, yes, with SMG. it's gotta be awesome at the track (i'm a track rat )

 

well I couldn't decide between the two so I currently own both.

I'm pretty sure it's been said in this thread but here's my take...the M3 is the better all around car. Straight line performance is pretty much a wash, I prefer the interior of the M3 personally and enjoy the utility it provides over the 996.

That said the 996 is more of a drivers car, much better brake feel and modulation, better steering feel, better torque for around town driving, etc.

Stock for Stock if you're looking for driving experience only the 996 is hands down the winner. One thing not noted here is that the M3 leaves much more on the table for the aftermarket community to correct than the Porsche. M3's with full coilovers, aftermarket sways, camber plates and some weight loss (200lbs) are extremely potent track cars. The 996 is still a "better" track car with similar modifications but not by nearly the margin that was present stock for stock.

 

[quote=karlooz]LOL, that's right. YOU are the one he jumped on, for what it seemed to me, no reason. gross exaggeration. the "other" guy was GMGM3. after he said that the 996 was notorious for oversteering showed me that he didn't know much about the car. these cars are designed to understeer out of the box.

it's alright, i know how to filter out the constructive from the BS.

LOL! Yea that guy is pretty much the type of person who gives bmw guys a bad name. then on the other hand u have a guy like illm3 who shows you that not all bmw people are a-holes. yes, he seemed to get very aggitated and was WAY out of line.

 

[quote=karlooz]LOL, that's right. YOU are the one he jumped on, for what it seemed to me, no reason. gross exaggeration.

Not sure if youre being sarcastic there or not.

 

When my friends drive my 997S and ask for what's closest in terms of performance and feel for a really good price as a used car, I automatically name the m3! Its one hell of a car out the box as many have mentioned here.

I still feel that it is a downgrade though, for several reasons: lack of traction/grip, number steering feel, not as exciting to drive (maybe I'm spoiled by always correcting a rear weight biased car), and the fact that it is really a fixed up 318/325/3-daddy's little girl got a sweet 16 present-series-car.

Even when I drove my friends 996 C4S (who actually did downgrade to an m3), I still felt that the steering feel, acceleration, and feedback were not there (and take into account that this was a heavier c4s coupe). He sold the M3 and got a 545. Now he's shopping for a cayman S!

When I ran into this situation, I bought my boxster S instead. So I guess its really what you're aiming for: Daily driver w/ sportiness or Race car toned down for everyday driving. Take your pick.

 

Another thing you may want to consider (and I'm not sure if this came up in this thread already or not) is reliability.

While shopping for both cars, I felt that the 996 community were more confident in the reliability of their porsches versus the impression I got from the M3 crowd. Whether the impressions I got were accurate or not is a different story.

 

[quote=PorscheC4]Yes i was, only because i am one of the nicest most open minded/knowledgable people who have had all of the car's they talk about! Their ignorance shines through on that board, and that time it just set me off, but you know what? I still appologized like a man

 

I'd say get the M3. Only because you are looking to invest the saved $$ into something worthwhile. The difference in cars is insignificant performance-wise and since you are looking to save some cash and invest, go with the M. You can sell the M later and buy a car twice the value once your investment takes off. Handle your priorities first but thats just my opinion

 

[quote=spyder997s]

Even when I drove my friends 996 C4S (who actually did downgrade to an m3), I still felt that the steering feel, acceleration, and feedback were not there (and take into account that this was a heavier c4s coupe). He sold the M3 and got a 545. Now he's shopping for a cayman S!
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Kinda confused by that statement. You meant to say that even compared to the heavier C4S, the m3 still feels disconnected, not as fast, and not as good of steering feel, correct? Because thats what I got from it and thats the way it prob would be since Porsche is very well know for all those things and the C4S is one hell of a car.