UPDATED: Process for 997 multifunction wheel swap / steering wheel removal
#46
Just came back from local shop that had PIWIS, got my new old MF wheel activated. Spent there almost whole hour. I did not want to go to dealer as I did not want to re-flash my ECU plus indi shop I used was 10 minutes from my house and dealer is 40 minutes drive away.
So, to say first - PCM is not getting coded at all for this operation, apparently. Changes gets done to GATEWAY and to STEERING COLUMN sections. In both MF controls option will need to be activated.
Entire process took a lot of time because of my Mobdridge unit, for some reason (as neither I nor store owner knew how it was supposed to be done and in forums we read about PCM to be involved we tried to get into its config) but my PCM decided to cease communication with PIWIS completely - simply did not respond and did not show up. Or if woken up by force decided to disappear again. So after some time spent with fight over it we decided to unplug mobridge unit completely breaking optical bus and having PCM to scream about lost navigation, but it finally started talking to PIWIS properly. We looked for anything related to MF in PCM setting but found nothing.
In the end we followed procedures - change settings, erase all error codes, do 'vehicle turnover' procedure and after MF controls started to work. Only question I have - do those controls suppose to work only after key is turned in ignition? When I activate my PCM with key not in ignition MF controls on steering wheel do not make any effect. PCM starts to react only after key is turned. Also, I found no config section in PCM screen that would allow to redefine keys` assignment. Nor it was in PIWIS PCM settings.
Is it how it is supposed to be?
So, to say first - PCM is not getting coded at all for this operation, apparently. Changes gets done to GATEWAY and to STEERING COLUMN sections. In both MF controls option will need to be activated.
Entire process took a lot of time because of my Mobdridge unit, for some reason (as neither I nor store owner knew how it was supposed to be done and in forums we read about PCM to be involved we tried to get into its config) but my PCM decided to cease communication with PIWIS completely - simply did not respond and did not show up. Or if woken up by force decided to disappear again. So after some time spent with fight over it we decided to unplug mobridge unit completely breaking optical bus and having PCM to scream about lost navigation, but it finally started talking to PIWIS properly. We looked for anything related to MF in PCM setting but found nothing.
In the end we followed procedures - change settings, erase all error codes, do 'vehicle turnover' procedure and after MF controls started to work. Only question I have - do those controls suppose to work only after key is turned in ignition? When I activate my PCM with key not in ignition MF controls on steering wheel do not make any effect. PCM starts to react only after key is turned. Also, I found no config section in PCM screen that would allow to redefine keys` assignment. Nor it was in PIWIS PCM settings.
Is it how it is supposed to be?
Last edited by utkinpol; 12-17-2009 at 02:20 PM.
#47
My buttons don't work unless the ignition is on. They should also light up with the headlights.
I'd have to look again in the PCM. Finding the assignable key page is deep into the reset menu for the global PCM settings. The assignable key is really a joke anyway. THe one benefit I've found now tithe the Dension is that the right key will scroll down songs in the song list, automatically changing to the selected song after a couple of seconds, really cool. I've assigned the assignable key to open the nav map. THe other choices are pretty useless I thought.
I'd have to look again in the PCM. Finding the assignable key page is deep into the reset menu for the global PCM settings. The assignable key is really a joke anyway. THe one benefit I've found now tithe the Dension is that the right key will scroll down songs in the song list, automatically changing to the selected song after a couple of seconds, really cool. I've assigned the assignable key to open the nav map. THe other choices are pretty useless I thought.
#48
My buttons don't work unless the ignition is on. They should also light up with the headlights.
I'd have to look again in the PCM. Finding the assignable key page is deep into the reset menu for the global PCM settings. The assignable key is really a joke anyway. THe one benefit I've found now tithe the Dension is that the right key will scroll down songs in the song list, automatically changing to the selected song after a couple of seconds, really cool. I've assigned the assignable key to open the nav map. THe other choices are pretty useless I thought.
I'd have to look again in the PCM. Finding the assignable key page is deep into the reset menu for the global PCM settings. The assignable key is really a joke anyway. THe one benefit I've found now tithe the Dension is that the right key will scroll down songs in the song list, automatically changing to the selected song after a couple of seconds, really cool. I've assigned the assignable key to open the nav map. THe other choices are pretty useless I thought.
Pretty strange, I looked over PCM manual yesterday and did not find this settings nowhere. May be something was supposed to be configured for PCM in PIWIS after all. But we found no options to change. Strange stuff.
Last edited by utkinpol; 12-18-2009 at 05:54 AM.
#49
Yep, I wanted to do the same as to turn on map is a most common action.
Pretty strange, I looked over PCM manual yesterday and did not find this settings nowhere. May be something was supposed to be configured for PCM in PIWIS after all. But we found no options to change. Strange stuff.
Pretty strange, I looked over PCM manual yesterday and did not find this settings nowhere. May be something was supposed to be configured for PCM in PIWIS after all. But we found no options to change. Strange stuff.
John
#50
Only thing I see strange is - why start call button cannot be used to terminate call, that would free up other button. Nethertheless this MF setup allows to operate mobridge just fine and allows to choose music I need so I am very satisfied. Just want to figure out how to map 'map' button somehow but not sacrificing current functionality.
#51
Should be right there on the Info / Option Page. If not, maybe something still not programmed correctly.
I set mine to Map as well after a few weeks - Map is the only thing I'm that in a hurry to get directly back to. Overall, I'm happy with the setup.
#52
Info/Option/Mult Func. St. Whl...
Should be right there on the Info / Option Page. If not, maybe something still not programmed correctly.
I set mine to Map as well after a few weeks - Map is the only thing I'm that in a hurry to get directly back to. Overall, I'm happy with the setup.
Should be right there on the Info / Option Page. If not, maybe something still not programmed correctly.
I set mine to Map as well after a few weeks - Map is the only thing I'm that in a hurry to get directly back to. Overall, I'm happy with the setup.
thanks, just checked - only stuff I have on Info page is 'address book' and 'cd info'. if I press 'Set' there are no options as well.
May be it needs to have 'seat memory' option to show this up. Ok, itis not a big deal.
#53
Press the Info button, then the Option button. It is not on the Info page.
I have Individual Memory (Sports Chono only), MF Wheel, and Set PCM on my Info/Option page.
That's for PCM3 though.
You should take a look at an '06 PCM2 manual - or not...I checked and the '06 Owner's manual says button can be assigned in the PCM, PCM2 doesn't mention it.
Last edited by stevepow; 12-18-2009 at 10:36 AM.
#54
multifunction conversion kit on tiptronic 997.1
In another forum I read that 997.1 with tiptronic have already the control module installed. In fact I looked in PET and it does not distinguish between a multifunction control module for cars with or without tiptronic.
So this would save some money for us tip-drivers.
Maybe the guys from Suncoast can answer, since you sell the conversion kit for the same price, no matter if manual or tiptronic.
#55
Great write up, but I am a little unsure if this statement is valid for Pcars with Tiptronic.
In another forum I read that 997.1 with tiptronic have already the control module installed. In fact I looked in PET and it does not distinguish between a multifunction control module for cars with or without tiptronic.
So this would save some money for us tip-drivers.
Maybe the guys from Suncoast can answer, since you sell the conversion kit for the same price, no matter if manual or tiptronic.
In another forum I read that 997.1 with tiptronic have already the control module installed. In fact I looked in PET and it does not distinguish between a multifunction control module for cars with or without tiptronic.
So this would save some money for us tip-drivers.
Maybe the guys from Suncoast can answer, since you sell the conversion kit for the same price, no matter if manual or tiptronic.
#56
997 MF steering wheel compatibility
Forgive my question being a bit off topic from the original. I have seen several 997 MF wheels for sale and love the Carbon fiber look. What I'm wondering is, MF buttons aside, can this wheel be adapted to fit a 996? In this case I am speaking about versions that are both of the 3 spoke variety. much obliged to anyone who can shed light on this.
Thanks!
Thanks!
#57
The 997 version won't fit the 996 models, we tested this a few years back. The airag hook-ups are also different, so I wouldn't recommend the swap. There are factory and aftermarket carbon 996 wheels available, so you have plenty of options. And I'm not aware of a multi-function option for the 996.
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