I guess that's my point - I thought all 997 S models have a sport mode by default. My 2011 997.2 C2S has it, and my 2007 997.1 C2S had it (I just can't rember if it was an option back then).

I think is the part that's confusing me:

Fitment: 2005-2011 Carrera, Cayman, & Boxster, and 2006-2009 Turbo models without Sport Chrono or Sport Chrono Plus.

I guess, in theory, you could install it on a 2011 S to get the PCM settings, but nothing else. I'm just trying to figure out if this is something I should consider or not.

 

It was not standard on either of your cars. All the S gives you standard is the PASM, sports suspension. The sport button is not standard on the .1 or .2 regardless of PDK or not. Hence why this is such an amazing upgrade for those unfortunate enough to get a .2 PDK without sports chrono.

Since you already have sports chrono, you have ALL the features listed including the PCM options.

 

I'm sorry, but I think you're incorrect on both counts. 1) I do not have Sports Chrono - as indicated, I ordered a 6MT which relegates SC to mere computer settings; 2) PASM is standard on the S and includes both normal and sport modes, but the "PASM sports chassis" is optional. Let me quote from the porscheusa.com website:

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/91...l/?gtabindex=3 (PASM details)

The driver can select between two different modes: ‘Normal’ which is a blend of performance and comfort, and ‘Sport’ where the setup is much firmer. The two setup modes overlap slightly and so the balance between comfortable and uncompromisingly sporty is struck more effectively than with a conventional chassis. Depending on the mode selected, therefore, PASM is sportier or more comfortable than the standard chassis of models with the 3.6-liter engine. The PASM control unit evaluates the driving conditions and modifies the damping force on each of the wheels in accordance with the selected mode.

Sensors monitor the movement of the vehicle body, for example, under heavy acceleration and braking or on uneven roads. The control unit tunes the dampers to the optimum hardness for the selected mode to reduce roll and pitch, and increase contact between each individual wheel and the road.

In ‘Sport’ mode, the suspension is set to a harder damper rating. On uneven roads, PASM immediately switches to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range, thereby improving contact between the wheels and the road. When the road surface improves, PASM automatically reverts to the original, harder rating.

If ‘Normal’ mode is selected and the driver’s style becomes more assertive, PASM automatically switches to a harder rating within the ‘Normal’ setup range. Damping becomes harder, and driving stability and road safety are increased.

So to be clear, I'm not saying this is not a valuable addition for folks who don't have some or all of the features that are included. I'm just trying to make sure I know what I would get out of installing it.

EDIT: I just realized where I'm getting off track - the PASM "sport" setting is enabled via the "shock" button and not the "SPORT" button. So the PASM "sport" mode is not the same as the throttle "sport" mode.

So I was confusing the PASM 'Sport' mode with the throttle map changes and launch control (for PDK) enabled by the software addition and the "SPORT" button. I do agree that a non-SC PDK car seems to have the biggest to gain from this upgrade.

From the Suncoast site:

When the Sport button on the center console is selected, the engine management system enhances the engine response. A modified throttle map relates the pedal angle in the footwell to a much wider angle of opening on the throttle valve. Throttle response is significantly more immediate, and, in the higher gears, a hard rev-limiter helps protect the engine under acceleration.

Vehicles with the optional Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) also switches to Sport mode for harder damping and more direct steering, and, therefore, better road holding. For maximum dexterity, PSM can be set to standby while the car is still in Sport mode. For safety, it is set to intervene automatically only when ABS assistance is required on both the front wheels.

Paragraph 1 and 2 are separate "features". I was thinking 1 was already part of 2. Sometimes I have to read the same thing over and over before it sinks in. So based on this, an S model (with PASM as standard equipment) would get a) the throttle re-map, and b) the SC-managed features via PCM. PDK S models would also get c) Launch Control and faster shifts/"Race Track Shift Strategy". Ryan should be able to confirm this is the right breakout. We need a spreadsheet.

 

Thank you Dave, I agree on all counts. The only thing is how do I utilize Launch Control on an non S .2?

 

IF you have PDK, it sounds like the add-on will include SPORT and SPORT PLUS button. The Sport Plus button will let you enable Launch Control:

- For 2009-2011 vehicles with PDK, you get a Sport Plus button with Launch Control and Race Track Shift Strategy.

When I tested LC, it was a 2010 PDK non-S (and it was fun).

 

Nice Doug, so I am hearing that this is probably the best bang for the buck, i've spent good money trying to get more horses on my DFI 3.6 and haven't felt much of an upgrade hopefully this one will be fun

 

Yes and no. It will not unlock any additional HP. However, it will increase the feel of the "butt dyno". The throttle mapping "feels" like a hp bump more than the 8-12 hp increases typically advertised from most bolt ons. So in that respect, it will *feel* faster.

 

YES! That is correct... Don't forget if your car has the sport exhaust, the sport button will also manage the settings.

 

I have one of the launch 997.2s (C2S cabs) that did not have the sport chrono included.

For me - this is an OUTSTANDING mod. It gives me the all of the SC features without that "ugly wart" as previously stated. (I assume the only missing feature is the sterring wheel "launch" light).

I always had a slight regret that I did not have the SC - but it sounds like that will be behind me shortly.

If I could only add a NAV module .........

 

The ad says it's Special order from germany. How long will that take?
Thanks.

 

My dealer told me 7-10 days.....i think he may be wrong

 

I am going to ask my (new local) dealer the same question later today.

Will keep you posted.

 

Usually takes 3-4 weeks for something to ship from Germany. If the switch is in the states then it can take 3-5 days. In order to have your vin number authorized by Porsche that should take 24-48 hours.

 

Ryan,

Any 6speedonline member discounts??

 

Someone asked, but I don't think it was answered.

If there is an install guide with the kit, it probably specifies the install time assigned by Porsche.

DRP