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Hmm....I think (and hope) I got the right part...I checked and its the same model that EMC2 shared in his first post: 991505525011E0.
Now, I maybe should have said tabs instead of clips...the tabs that run along the length and would have been inserted into the 991 bumper. They have the little raised part, I think I'm going to shave those off a bit, since I'm going to use them as screw points anyway, so they're more flush with the 997.2 bumper. I think EMC2 did the same on his install, but he used the 997.2 lip as well so wondered if any that directly installed the new lip think there was a benefit from tapering these clips down.
Hmm....I think (and hope) I got the right part...I checked and its the same model that EMC2 shared in his first post: 991505525011E0.
Now, I maybe should have said tabs instead of clips...the tabs that run along the length and would have been inserted into the 991 bumper. They have the little raised part, I think I'm going to shave those off a bit, since I'm going to use them as screw points anyway, so they're more flush with the 997.2 bumper. I think EMC2 did the same on his install, but he used the 997.2 lip as well so wondered if any that directly installed the new lip think there was a benefit from tapering these clips down.
If I recall correctly, I think I shaved the bumps down to make a flush surface. I would suggest doing that with direct mount also.
Now get that spoiler installed so we can see some pics
If I recall correctly, I think I shaved the bumps down to make a flush surface. I would suggest doing that with direct mount also. Now get that spoiler installed so we can see some pics
Warning: After removing my 997.2 2009 bumper I realized the headlights washers hose was located just above the lip. So if you screw from below with long screws you might damage this hose if it is misplaced like mine was.
Warning: After removing my 997.2 2009 bumper I realized the headlights washers hose was located just above the lip. So if you screw from below with long screws you might damage this hose if it is misplaced like mine was.
Thanks for the tip. By any chance does anyone have a picture of the front with the bumper removed so I can get an idea of where the headlight washer hoses are located? Thanks
I just finished installing mine. I abandoned the idea of using the mounting tape and just used screws, I used the #8 1/2" screws. I was able to see through the slots where the headlight washer tube was located so I was able to put the screws in such that they did not hit the headlight washer tubing.
Thanks again to all that helped provide info on how to do this.
I just finished installing mine. I abandoned the idea of using the mounting tape and just used screws, I used the #8 1/2" screws. I was able to see through the slots where the headlight washer tube was located so I was able to put the screws in such that they did not hit the headlight washer tubing. Thanks again to all that helped provide info on how to do this.
Nice!
Looks great. Do you have any pics of the whole car to get a better perspective?
Would you mind taking a picture of your car from a distance? One from the front and one from a 3/4 angle so we can get an idea of what it looks like on a non black car. Would really appreciate it.
Also, i remember you having the gt3tek lip before. Which lip did you like better? Which one gives you more clearance?
Success! I did it last Sunday, sorry haven't had time to post pics, but I'm very happy with the result! Thanks again, EMC2 and Hatzenbach for the tips! Also, I just saw the video posted by cbst09 - that is a great walkthrough for anyone looking to do this.
Here are a few points and pics from my process. I followed similar steps to cbst09:
1. I filled down the ridges on the tabs using a Dremel
2. I also used double-sided tape, and it helped position it, but like cbst09, I felt the tape added unnecessary space which would have left a gap, so I removed them from the tabs. I did leave tape on the very ends on each side, where they helped like a shim, and since it's not seen.
3. WARNING - I felt that the very sides had a lip on top which was preventing a flush mounting, so I shaved that off - see third pic. I may have gone a bit too enthusiastic, as now I think there is a little gap that may be visible. I may look for that rubber molding that EMC2 used to fill that in. You can see it in some of the later pics
4. I ordered the screws Hezenbach suggested off Amazon, they worked great
5. I did have my son help me out, found the second pair of hands and eyes very helpful in ensuring the lip stayed even with the bumper as I was screwing the lip on.
Overall, it wasn't as bad or time consuming as I thought it would be, and mind you this is the first time I'm really doing this kind of stuff, so if I did it you can too :-).
I'll attach more pics to show a comparison next.
Thanks all again for the help and encouragement! Next project is a TechArt wing I purchased a while back, but I'm taking that to a shop, as it's a different color and needs to be sanded, primed, painted to match, etc.
Success! I did it last Sunday, sorry haven't had time to post pics, but I'm very happy with the result! Thanks again, EMC2 and Hatzenbach for the tips! Also, I just saw the video posted by cbst09 - that is a great walkthrough for anyone looking to do this.
Here are a few points and pics from my process. I followed similar steps to cbst09:
1. I filled down the ridges on the tabs using a Dremel
2. I also used double-sided tape, and it helped position it, but like cbst09, I felt the tape added unnecessary space which would have left a gap, so I removed them from the tabs. I did leave tape on the very ends on each side, where they helped like a shim, and since it's not seen.
3. WARNING - I felt that the very sides had a lip on top which was preventing a flush mounting, so I shaved that off - see third pic. I may have gone a bit too enthusiastic, as now I think there is a little gap that may be visible. I may look for that rubber molding that EMC2 used to fill that in. You can see it in some of the later pics
4. I ordered the screws Hezenbach suggested off Amazon, they worked great
5. I did have my son help me out, found the second pair of hands and eyes very helpful in ensuring the lip stayed even with the bumper as I was screwing the lip on.
Overall, it wasn't as bad or time consuming as I thought it would be, and mind you this is the first time I'm really doing this kind of stuff, so if I did it you can too :-).
I'll attach more pics to show a comparison next.
Thanks all again for the help and encouragement! Next project is a TechArt wing I purchased a while back, but I'm taking that to a shop, as it's a different color and needs to be sanded, primed, painted to match, etc.
Looks great - nicely done.
It would be nice to see a pic from an angle like the one below. Looks like you installed yours a little more forward than mine (which on mine was dictated by the original spoiler points that I reused).
Also; I would strongly suggest adding the support bar as shown below, else at high speed the spoiler will flex backward and change angle. Not the kind of active-aero you would want
Thanks for all the feedback. Positive or negative. This is one of those things that is very subjective and down to personal taste.
To the person who asked "why do it?".
Same reason many people add the GTS, Aerokit or Speedster front lip to their front bumpers; for appearance as it looks more aggressive.
The trouble is that none of those lips can be fitted on the standard 997.2 bumper.
When Porsche made the 991 they made 2 lip options for the standard front bumper (who knows, maybe because they saw just how many people complained about the lack of an alternate, more pronounced lip for the 997.2)
See below 991 pics courtesy of Suncoast Parts.
Does it do anything to aerodynamics? Probably... because it is different to the stock config.
Is it the effect good or bad? I can't really say for sure, as I may be an engineer, but not in aerodynamics
If I had to guess, I would expect more air resistance and probably better downforce at the front. As an example the basic architecture/principle has some similarities with the 991 Active lip at full extension (performance mode).
I'm not saying this is definitive, just an assumption and would welcome comments or opinions from others. Of course, even if this is true it could have adverse effects at the rear of the car without an additional rear spoiler...
Fortunately or unfortunately I don't get to drive the car at the speeds where I think any of this will have any real impact (as also mentioned in some responses in this thread), but it certainly makes for interesting discussion.
So as I said in the beginning, it is more about personal taste. If I had anything but the stock bumper, I could choose from some great OEM lips for the 997.2. Since I have a stock bumper, this to me turned out to be the next best thing and I personally love the look - the photos don't really do it justice.
Great job and it looks really good! If you add black mesh grills it would look even better
Thanks EMC2! I'm happy with the look as well...am working on my wife who's undecided yet :-). I'll see if I have a pic from that angle, if not I'll take it in the next couple of days.
Yes on the extra support - I was actually going to look at Home Depot for a rigid 1/2 inch pipe like cbst09 used. You seem to have a bar of some type edged in there?