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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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I did make a modification to my original wiring.

The stock set up has the light path going from the cd changer to the head unit. This is the visible access point of the fiber optic cables where you see the two orange cables after removal of the ski slope dash cover.

In my first try, I tapped into the cable on the left hand side, which connected the dension after the cd changer (light path went from cd changer -> dension --> head unit). This was wrong and resulted in the phantom cd loading issue.

I redid it and instead tapped into the the right hand wire. The resulting light path is now cd changer -> head unit -> dension. This is the correct light path and fixed all issues because the signal now goes to the dension first and then to the cd changer.
 
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Originally Posted by spyder997s
I did make a modification to my original wiring.

The stock set up has the light path going from the cd changer to the head unit. This is the visible access point of the fiber optic cables where you see the two orange cables after removal of the ski slope dash cover.

In my first try, I tapped into the cable on the left hand side, which connected the dension after the cd changer (light path went from cd changer -> dension --> head unit). This was wrong and resulted in the phantom cd loading issue.

I redid it and instead tapped into the the right hand wire. The resulting light path is now cd changer -> head unit -> dension. This is the correct light path and fixed all issues because the signal now goes to the dension first and then to the cd changer.
Thanks for this additional information. Will reference check with my current setup. Feel's though I'm close..
 
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For anybody else in the future that may be looking into Interface module, maybe look into GROM Audio's MST4 unit.
They also have unit that works with Volvo MOST stereos just like Dension.
http://www.gromaudio.com//store/most..._optional.html
 
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Just noticed that my last post in this thread is alomost 3 months ago.. Well, not much has happened since on the success side of things.

I still do not have my Dension working

I've ruled out some potential showstoppers:

- Updated Dension with the latest firmware;
- 950Linn AMP module (in the trunk) works fine;
- Pulled fuses F66 and F43 in footwell to reset integrated Audio
- The Radio function + CDC-functions work perfect so hardware wise all is in order.

I've tried several set-ups; schematic 2A with XC-90 settings, 2B with settings, even tried schematic Type 1 with several dip-settings but all without results. With the Dension hooked-up 'after' the headunit and before CDC (2B) I seem to have the 'best' results:

- Upon reset of system it automatically goes into DISC 5 mode, showing track 1 GW-mode.
- The Ipod straight away shoots into GW-mode (to be controlled from car-controls
- when changing to DISC 6, Track 2 (to go to IU-mode where I'm after) it seems the 'track' is not released/opened and basically nothing happens.. Also in GW-mode I can't control the IPOD from the car-controls.

Any ideas??
 
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
One of the things that surprised me about my Aston Martin Vantage was the lack of any aftermarket kits that would allow me to connect my iPod to the awesome quality Premium Audio system. Sure, the system has an in-dash 6-CD changer, but that is so 1995. Without the ability to play MP3 files, even six CDs isn't a very large amount of songs before you need to swap out a disc. Aston Martin sells an iPod integration kit that can be installed by the dealer, but reports on the forums claim it costs over $1,500US to get the system installed. I was looking for a solution that I could install myself for a bit less money.

The Vantage uses MOST (Media Oriented System Transport) which utilizes fiber optic cables to carry entertainment system information throughout the car. This means that you can't simply patch in an analog audio cable into the stereo and start playing music. I thought about using a direct-feed RF modulator, but reviews of many of those products mention that the audio quality is not too good.

After doing an exhaustive search on the Interwebs, I came across a company named Dension (from Hungary) that makes a kit to interface to cars equipped with MOST-based audio systems such as Porsche, Mercedes, Audi, Saab, and Volvo. There was no application information for the Vantage and very little in terms of documentation, installation, or instruction manuals. What little information I got was based off a few Youtube videos and a couple of emails I sent to the company's pre-sales support department. Even with this little information, I decided to take a chance and get one of their interfaces and see if I could get it to work.

I had already removed the facia panel over the center console to get it refinished in Piano Black, so I was able to peek inside the center stack and notice that the infotainment display and the fiber optic cables that feed it are very accessible. So I concocted a temporary cable to take power from the 12V outlet in the center console and hooked up the unit per the diagrams. The interface has a series of DIP switches on one side that need to be set up for each particular application. Seeing as there is a large Volvo sticker on the top of the CD changer (visible with the facia removed), I figured that was a good guess for which setting to choose.

The unit comes with a remote switch that has a pair of analog RCA inputs. The switch is used to bypass the unit so that the dealer's diagnostic equipment doesn't detect it and cause any errors. It also has inputs for a USB storage device (thumb drive) and an iPod with Dock Connector. I also purchased the optional Bluetooth Adapter which allows you to stream music wirelessly as well as make phone calls through the in-car audio in some vehicles.

After playing with the settings for a few minutes, I was able to see the interface's menu's on the infotainment display. Once I saw this, I was able to configure the unit to play audio from all the sources and have it come out the car's speakers. It sounded fantastic. To say that the interface is cumbersome to operate would be a MAJOR understatement. It is not easy and, in fact, it might be better to attempt while pulled off on the side of the road, or by a passenger to avoid you being distracted while driving. Once it is set up, however, you can see the artists or song names on the display, and you can use the dash controls to play the next or previous song in the album or playlist.

Once I was convinced the system was going to work priorly, it was time to make the installation and conceal the unit and cables. My car is spec'd without Navigation, so there is a big cavity where the display would normally go that was more than sufficient for the interface and the Bluetooth adapter. Some of my goals with this installation were to make it as invisible as possible as well as making it fully reversible if necessary. Rather than drilling any holes to mount the unit, I chose to use some industrial grade velcro type fasteners to adhere the components to the surface. You can see the location I chose under the facia in the attached pictures. Most people choose to install iPod kits with the iPod itself in the glove compartment. However, the storage space in the Vantage's glove compartment is tiny and mostly occupied by the owner's manual. My idea was to simply have the USB stick and iPod tucked away under neath the rear shelf compartment. That way it is out of plain sight, yet easily accessible without having to make any permanent installation. To do this, I had to disassemble the center console and route the cables for the USB and iPod Dock through it. I also tapped off the back of the ashtray's 12V power plug socket and routed the cables to power the unit.

Some additional notes:

- I am able to place calls from my phone and have them play via Bluetooth through the car's audio system and the supplied microphone, but receiving calls doesn't seem to work as well.
- I don't know of my car already has the phone's microphone pre-installed even though I don't have the built-in phone option. It would be nice to use the car's microphone instead for a truly professional solution.
- Playing the iPhone 4 through Bluetooth is nice, since you don't even have to remove it from your pocket. However, even though the audio quality is very good, it is noticeably better when the phone is plugged into the Dock connector. Also, you don't get song names or other info on the car's display when you use the Bluetooth Audio.
- When you plug in the iPhone 4 a message pops up on the phone's screen stating that it is not compatible with this device, but once you click OK, it works perfectly and charges it while you play!
- The Dension interface cost me about $450US and the Bluetooth adapter was another $80. I also bought a set of longer cables so I could locate the ipod under the rear shelf, far away from the interface. Overall, my savings were substantial compared to the Aston Martin iPod Integration Kit.
- Installation took me 2 evenings.
- If you are not handy with tools, electronics, or working on car interiors, I would definitely not recommend that you attempt this yourself.
- Please feel free to ask questions.
Do you actually need to remove the radio (i.e. including all the center console panels) to install the Dension unit, or can you just pry off the facia and work from there?
 
Old Jun 10, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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Just pry off the facia. Works great.
 
Old Jun 10, 2015 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sonnyd
Just pry off the facia. Works great.
Awesome, thanks! That makes it a whole lot easier. Going to do the install tomorrow.

Where did you choose to route the iPod and USB cables? Was going to plug the tune2air Bluetooth module into the iPod cable and a lighting adapter into the USB.
 
Old Jun 11, 2015 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
One of the things that surprised me about my Aston Martin Vantage was the lack of any aftermarket kits that would allow me to connect my iPod to the awesome quality Premium Audio system. Sure, the system has an in-dash 6-CD changer, but that is so 1995. Without the ability to play MP3 files, even six CDs isn't a very large amount of songs before you need to swap out a disc. Aston Martin sells an iPod integration kit that can be installed by the dealer, but reports on the forums claim it costs over $1,500US to get the system installed. I was looking for a solution that I could install myself for a bit less money.

The Vantage uses MOST (Media Oriented System Transport) which utilizes fiber optic cables to carry entertainment system information throughout the car. This means that you can't simply patch in an analog audio cable into the stereo and start playing music. I thought about using a direct-feed RF modulator, but reviews of many of those products mention that the audio quality is not too good.

After doing an exhaustive search on the Interwebs, I came across a company named Dension (from Hungary) that makes a kit to interface to cars equipped with MOST-based audio systems such as Porsche, Mercedes, Audi, Saab, and Volvo. There was no application information for the Vantage and very little in terms of documentation, installation, or instruction manuals. What little information I got was based off a few Youtube videos and a couple of emails I sent to the company's pre-sales support department. Even with this little information, I decided to take a chance and get one of their interfaces and see if I could get it to work.

I had already removed the facia panel over the center console to get it refinished in Piano Black, so I was able to peek inside the center stack and notice that the infotainment display and the fiber optic cables that feed it are very accessible. So I concocted a temporary cable to take power from the 12V outlet in the center console and hooked up the unit per the diagrams. The interface has a series of DIP switches on one side that need to be set up for each particular application. Seeing as there is a large Volvo sticker on the top of the CD changer (visible with the facia removed), I figured that was a good guess for which setting to choose.

The unit comes with a remote switch that has a pair of analog RCA inputs. The switch is used to bypass the unit so that the dealer's diagnostic equipment doesn't detect it and cause any errors. It also has inputs for a USB storage device (thumb drive) and an iPod with Dock Connector. I also purchased the optional Bluetooth Adapter which allows you to stream music wirelessly as well as make phone calls through the in-car audio in some vehicles.

After playing with the settings for a few minutes, I was able to see the interface's menu's on the infotainment display. Once I saw this, I was able to configure the unit to play audio from all the sources and have it come out the car's speakers. It sounded fantastic. To say that the interface is cumbersome to operate would be a MAJOR understatement. It is not easy and, in fact, it might be better to attempt while pulled off on the side of the road, or by a passenger to avoid you being distracted while driving. Once it is set up, however, you can see the artists or song names on the display, and you can use the dash controls to play the next or previous song in the album or playlist.

Once I was convinced the system was going to work priorly, it was time to make the installation and conceal the unit and cables. My car is spec'd without Navigation, so there is a big cavity where the display would normally go that was more than sufficient for the interface and the Bluetooth adapter. Some of my goals with this installation were to make it as invisible as possible as well as making it fully reversible if necessary. Rather than drilling any holes to mount the unit, I chose to use some industrial grade velcro type fasteners to adhere the components to the surface. You can see the location I chose under the facia in the attached pictures. Most people choose to install iPod kits with the iPod itself in the glove compartment. However, the storage space in the Vantage's glove compartment is tiny and mostly occupied by the owner's manual. My idea was to simply have the USB stick and iPod tucked away under neath the rear shelf compartment. That way it is out of plain sight, yet easily accessible without having to make any permanent installation. To do this, I had to disassemble the center console and route the cables for the USB and iPod Dock through it. I also tapped off the back of the ashtray's 12V power plug socket and routed the cables to power the unit.

Some additional notes:

- I am able to place calls from my phone and have them play via Bluetooth through the car's audio system and the supplied microphone, but receiving calls doesn't seem to work as well.
- I don't know of my car already has the phone's microphone pre-installed even though I don't have the built-in phone option. It would be nice to use the car's microphone instead for a truly professional solution.
- Playing the iPhone 4 through Bluetooth is nice, since you don't even have to remove it from your pocket. However, even though the audio quality is very good, it is noticeably better when the phone is plugged into the Dock connector. Also, you don't get song names or other info on the car's display when you use the Bluetooth Audio.
- When you plug in the iPhone 4 a message pops up on the phone's screen stating that it is not compatible with this device, but once you click OK, it works perfectly and charges it while you play!
- The Dension interface cost me about $450US and the Bluetooth adapter was another $80. I also bought a set of longer cables so I could locate the ipod under the rear shelf, far away from the interface. Overall, my savings were substantial compared to the Aston Martin iPod Integration Kit.
- Installation took me 2 evenings.
- If you are not handy with tools, electronics, or working on car interiors, I would definitely not recommend that you attempt this yourself.
- Please feel free to ask questions.
So, I'm really hoping someone can help! I took off all the appropriate panels and wired the power from the cigarette adapter up near the radio. I then unplugged the existing optical cable from the radio and plugged it into my Denison unit. I turned on the radio to test it and the unit has power (temperature is displayed) but when I power on the radio I see "vantage audio" for 2 seconds then it turns back off.

Assuming this is also related, my windows just now stopped rising/lowering upon opening/closing the door.

Checked the fuses in the trunk and under the passenger footwell. What has gone wrong or what more should I check? Thanks in advance.
 
Old Jul 15, 2015 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
The two fiber optic cables going to the connector that plugs into the back of the display unit need to be separated. The Output side goes to the Dension and from there back to where the cable was originally connected. The display's Input cable remains connected as before. Just use Diagram 1C as a reference.
Karlfranz, I want to double check what you mean here:

At the back of the display unit you leave the fibre optic going inwards connected.

Then you take the light from the display unit and take it to the dension unit.

Where do you take the light coming out of the dension unit?
 
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
- The Dension interface cost me about $450US and the Bluetooth adapter was another $80.
Hi Karlfranz. Can you point me to the Bluetooth adapter you used during your install. It appears like it is not listed on Dension website.
Thanks and appreciated.

Chris.
 
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So, I'm really hoping someone can help! I took off all the appropriate panels and wired the power from the cigarette adapter up near the radio. I then unplugged the existing optical cable from the radio and plugged it into my Denison unit. I turned on the radio to test it and the unit has power (temperature is displayed) but when I power on the radio I see "vantage audio" for 2 seconds then it turns back off.

Assuming this is also related, my windows just now stopped rising/lowering upon opening/closing the door.

Checked the fuses in the trunk and under the passenger footwell. What has gone wrong or what more should I check? Thanks in advance.
So, I'm still stuck. It's been over a month, and I'm without a radio or CD player (I drive my car everyday, as it's my only car). Somehow, unplugging and re-plugging in the optical cord from the main console messed something up. The wires are in their exact original configuration, and my Dension unit is still sitting in my garage. Everything else in the car works, except the radio. Super frustrating...
 
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Alternative to Dension?

I've emailed VolvoTech about their mmmi-aux system, which they say will provide an auxiliary audio input for an early AM MOST Linn system, such as my '06 DB9: http://www.volvotech.eu/mmmi-aux
They say that the correct firmware is provided by noting "Aston Martin" in the order instead of choosing a Volvo model...
 
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Dension adapter USB

With the Dension Gateway 500 adapter, can you retrofit it so that audio can be controlled via the steering wheel-mounted phone controls?
 
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Originally Posted by specONE
For anybody else in the future that may be looking into Interface module, maybe look into GROM Audio's MST4 unit.
They also have unit that works with Volvo MOST stereos just like Dension.
http://www.gromaudio.com//store/most..._optional.html
Anyone having trouble with the Dension, scrap it and get the grom. I have it in my 05-db9 its faster, cheaper and easier to install. It doesn't skip or pause when changing tracks, It doesn't skip or pause when changing folders. Its got some clever controls for answering and rejecting phone calls (next track answers - prev track rejects). Use the eject button to change modes. I can use the right **** to forward multiple tracks and it doesn't skip or pause it just acts like it should

Downside - only supports 6 folders and doesn't show track names (maybe just on my car being an 05). And also it uses the power plug from your cd changer so your changer will be disconnected

I used the version for Volvo. The included mic is pretty good for our quiet interiors. Ran me about $400 including bluetooth and just worked

Because it replaces and is powered from the cd changer wiring you don't need to tap into a cigarette lighter.

Its small so I just shoved it between my now disconnected cd changer and the stereo display, put some 3m tape on both sides so it doesn't move/rattle

Haven't tested iPod integration as I use Samsung

Let me know if you have questions about the unit
 

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So, I'm still stuck. It's been over a month, and I'm without a radio or CD player (I drive my car everyday, as it's my only car). Somehow, unplugging and re-plugging in the optical cord from the main console messed something up. The wires are in their exact original configuration, and my Dension unit is still sitting in my garage. Everything else in the car works, except the radio. Super frustrating...
Still stuck! Any suggestions are much appreciated, as I've been dealing with this problem for over 2 months. Have taken the car to several Aston radio specialists, and nobody can figure it out.

Literally, here are the steps that I followed before the radio stopped working:

1) Routed a power cord from the cigarette adapter to fascia (for Dension unit)
2) Unplugged the optical connector from the radio.
3) Unplugged one of the two optical fibers from the connector, just to look at it.
4) Plugged that optical fiber back in the connector
5) Plugged in the connector with wires into the Dension unit. The radio would now now power on. Everything else works, but when I press power on the radio, the "Vantage Audio" logo appears for a second, then the radio turns off.
6) So, I unplugged the optical connector from the Dension unit and plugged it back into its original configuration in the radio. Still, same result as step 5 (radio does not turn on.)

I will pay good money to someone who can help me figure this out!
 


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