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Old 02-14-2018, 11:38 AM
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I'd use this as an opportunity to rebuild it to 5 liter spec and try for 500bhp. Race engines blow up all the time and get rebuilt, no difference with this one. Only concern would be what caused the failure in the first place as the car was regularly serviced and has spent plenty of time at the dealership.
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yea - what in the world was the root cause?

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Would almost certainly be cheaper to put a used engine in instead of rebuilding and much faster.

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Are there any sources for used engines?
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Yikes. That sucks. Going to be hard to do a post mortem, but like others my guess would be oil starvation. I highly doubt a bearing or some other piece just failed. The question is what caused it. Seems improbable a galley to the head got blocked, but if there's no scoring in the cylinders and the rest of the bottom end is ok then sounds like there's was oil down there, especially considering it's a dry sump system. Anybody have good details about how the oiling system works? I'll have to look at the workshop manual.
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I'd use this as an opportunity to rebuild it to 5 liter spec and try for 500bhp. Race engines blow up all the time and get rebuilt, no difference with this one. Only concern would be what caused the failure in the first place as the car was regularly serviced and has spent plenty of time at the dealership.
If I remember correctly, stretching the engine to 5.0 is not going to be easy.
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But there is an important reason why everyone should have their cars serviced at the dealer.
What is the reason?
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The suspense is killing me..........
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Sorry for the loss. My first reaction was also very dry top part of the engine. Oil starvation.

All the best in fixing this.

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Damn. I can't even imagine what thoughts are going through your mind.

As other mentioned, this is dry with no oil lubrication at all.
How full was the dry sump oil reservoir? I remember you mentioned your Vantage used up a large amount in a short time at one point.
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Yowsa! I am sorry to see this, and I hope you are able to come to the least painful resolution that is possible.

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Sorry, my pneumonia decided to get worse so I'm mostly just in bed now.

As I said earlier it was definitely starvation. The tech found something that's given a glimmer of hope but until the dominoes fall it's just "hope".

Anybody here that knows this car knows it's been meticulously over-maintained.

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I bought it from his agent September 2016 with 5700 miles.
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It missed its last yearly service because he only drove it 75 miles over the 2 years [IMO I think it stalled in a bad situation and spooked him from driving it. I also believe it probably stalled on Craig and that's why he turned it in after 2400 miles.]
When received the clutch was fried so I had the VAP/DAE twin plate installed and the full 6 year service done. It had stalled before but the pedal was stupid heavy and I always put it off to "I must have stalled it". In reality it stalls at about a 50/year pace by the records I kept. So thanks to an outstanding forum member Mr. Palmer got involved and mandated it be fixed, and England has spent alot of time and money trying to get it cured, including assuming it had to be the lightweight flywheel and they put a stock clutch in it. It stalled 3 days later. The last time it was in for 8 days swapping data and software with England, and developed a new bog problem which caused another driver to slam on his brakes to keep from drilling me.

I was down almost 2 quarts after 7000 miles and I didn't like how dirty the oil was so I had it serviced. When it was in for those last 8 days of data exchange we checked and it was down a quart at 5000 miles, which I have come to learn is fairly normal. We topped it off. So it had a full tank of 5000 mile oil, and as I was picking it up we figured out it was 5000 miles which is when I would have had it changed again and it could have been done while they had it those 8 days, but we just joked it would stall again and be back next month so we'd do the service then.

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I know there is a problem on the 4.7 :
Anyone know the torque spec for the crankshaft bolt? Seems like good insurance to check every now and then!
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this is a very sad situation - and when you are unwell

hope you get better & get a good result from your glimmer of "hope"

these cars shouldn't fail at 17k miles

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Crankshaft pulley bolt is 236 ft/lb. Not as much as I would have expected - Land Rover discovery was over 300 - lots of fun....

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Hi H-O...wow...I am shocked and sorry to read. Being sick only adds to the misery.

I am out of town and just saw your post. I wish you well. I will be interested in learning why the oil failure.

Good luck!!!

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