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I can understand everybody's concern when a common part fails and can cause such devastation. Trust that I did not help by making stupid decisions but now knowing that chirping and chatter was the top end already melting down I'm pretty sure at that point I first noticed it, it was already a full rebuild.


As for the technicalities of ECU shutoff, I wasn't even aware it was supposed to. It would have been nice if that stupid decision was taken out of my hands with a shutdown but it wasn't.
 
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H-O...you are a trip. New engine..new clutch slapping power to a 8 year old transaxle knowing you with DSC off....funny..save 35000.00 to replace it next.
i would think the torque tube being carbon fiber may survive...

Get healthy as your car engine ordeal is not over yet I am sure the dealer and Aston Martin will **** you off before all is over..

I wonder how Aston Martin is going to program the ECU ...old settings to see if the stall is corrected or continue using the new re flash...I will be interested to follow.

My son had another tune done recently on his car but every retune we do is done and put on a dano for recording and showing results.
I hope all these new reflashes were done the same and not just done monkey style and put on the car and hey go drive it...otherwise how does Aston know actual improvements or spot other problems with the new flash?
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You mean we're not going to have a grudge match?!


It was in for 8 days of data, drive, data, flash, drive, I don't know what all was done but they did have it 8 days. No monkeys were injured.
 
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For me all this does is raise more questions
A-why didnt the ECU shut down the motor
B- why didn't the filter bypass work to maintain the oil flow
C- is there a “bad batch” of OEM filters out there all waiting to implode and grenade more Aston engines ?
D- if I use an OEM filterand change my own oil and my engine grenades due to a filter failure will AM cover the repair cost ?
 
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Holy ****. Was waiting to see the underlying cause... I'm so glad that it's covered under warranty due to circumstances, but wow.
 
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I could foresee this raising more questions than answers, and I wish I had the knowledge to answer them, but I don't. I also never wanted to start a fear campaign about oil filters, because they do consider it a freak occurrence. I'm not sure any of these questions will ever be answered, I'm just very glad I serviced at the dealer and that I have a wonderful service department that found it and submitted it to England on my behalf.
 
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IMHO the most important point here is not that the filter exploded or blocked oil to the engine. ( might be one in a million, but stuff happens) The important point is why the fail safe devices did not work.
The "Service Engine Immediately" was on the message center after I refired it, but I was in fight or flight panic mode making more than stupid decisions, the worst of which was not shutting it off and leaving it where it sat but driving it a mile as it melted down. My initial thoughts that some accessory was failing and binding the belt was obviously far off the mark.
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Oh my god, that is a lot of $. I am glad that A M is stepping up for you.
I am a big proponent of dealer service on my newer cars. Especially in this price bracket.
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Yes, after installation and taxes it would be dangerously close to that Titanium Silver 09' stick coupe with 13,000 miles Park Place has [which I don't understand their pricing, they'd usually have that about 10k higher]. It would have been a very tough decision to make. You know the commercial where you slap yourself on the forehead and say "should have had a V8!" except it would be "could have bought a V12!"

FCKAM has a brand new DB9 Volante on the floor 60k off at $154k, that's about what I'd have in this V8 after.
 
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You are right that 09 Titanium Silver is very clean and amazing price... if someone is looking for a 4.7 that is the one to get... it even has the N430 exterior package which is almost $4,000
 
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wow, what an incredible series of events. very happy for you in the resolution to this. i'm coming up on another service myself and now seriously contemplating whether to continue to go to the indy down the street from me or make the haul out to the dealer...
 
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HO really pleased it's being sorted for you - hope all goes well

This is an interesting issue isn't it.

I did an interim oil change on my V8V in December as I'd done 10,000km and service wasn't due till May. I bought an Aston branded filter from a reputable source.

Wonder what would eventuate if it was my filter that imploded.

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My 2 year 24k Platinum Warranty was only $3500. Now I see why. Clutch is specifically exempted. Did get $558 back when door struts failed.
 
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Here it's $5000 a year or $7500 for 2. That's straight from a printed sheet I got a glance at but may have to do with age and type of vehicle.
 
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Originally Posted by Vantagelvr View Post
For me all this does is raise more questions
A-why didnt the ECU shut down the motor

Because oil pressure wasn't low, the passages in the head and VVT were blocked, most likely from that black oil filter diaphragm that came apart.

B- why didn't the filter bypass work to maintain the oil flow

Actually shows evidence it was going wide open, that white rubber is the diaphragm which isn't allowing it to no longer close. If that diaphragm is jammed like that, means excessive oil pressure

C- is there a “bad batch” of OEM filters out there all waiting to implode and grenade more Aston engines ?

Have yet to see the superseded white exterior casing oil filter do this....that's all I can say.

D- if I use an OEM filterand change my own oil and my engine grenades due to a filter failure will AM cover the repair cost ?
Grey area..You still have a year warranty on the part. So if that part causes failure and was not a result of abuse (over tightened filter or incorrect oil grade, service life) and deemed ok by a certified Aston shop/tech, then it's corporate's decision that would have to make the call..
 

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