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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Well you can make all the excuses you want LACR blah blah blah, but here in GA the track I ran at (commerce 1000 elevation) is know for being about .3 slower than one a couple of hours from here. I did this as a lolly gag run. 3650 race weight with stereo, wheels etc etc etc and only 689 rwhp on pump gas and my turbos getting choked by melted cats. Once my new fuel pump is in which will be soo I'll be at 900 rwhp on pump gas and god knows what after that. I'm not turninn my car into a drag car but I like the power, the porsche is for the twisties.

Do you own (pay for) that 997 in your garage, you havent refferenced it as mine so I would think your some rich little kid living at home with a large amount on your credit card. Your little M3 doesnt scare anyone and if you are talking about running meth, and that much hp on a stock block you wont make it one lap around a track with that.
LACR is known for its horrible times, i can care less what you think. The guys that really know tracks know whats up.

689rwhp 11.5@130mph isnt a great figure... With that much power i would have broken 10's at 135 at LACR..

My friend owns a 427 Procharged Z with about everything on it and he made 900+rwhp at A&A. I know what they are capable and what they are not..

I actually do pay for the 997tt, nice try though.

I made what i did on the stock block, i ran it hard on the streets and track. Not 1 blowing incident, i bet your car was tons less reliable. Its cool though, its getting built now.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
oh i am so jealous now that you have a 997TT... but seriously you need to work on your photography skills alittle bit... but whats up with driving your car for 7 hours to a good track??? you don't seem to be tired here posting about your FAST M3... if you want to prove your car's fast then when you get it back, do take the effort to a GOOD TRACK and bring us an amazing time and trap... that way we can all be proud of what you've accomplished... FYI i am not saying your car is slow... just stop doing bench racing and coming on 6speed and posting HOW MUCH FASTER YOUR CAR IS THAN A GT2 or TT alike...

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Really? Thanks. Now i suck at photography too!! Man you are too good. When the car is done i will run at Moroso in FL just to see whats up before it gets trailored to LA.

Never did i bench race, times/dynos/videos can be found of my car. Ive had tons of races and i know what the car is capable of against others.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SCM3
Once again incorrect statement, there was talk about TT's and GT2's. You sure do make alot of BS claims man... A GT2 doesnt cost 240k either. I guess putting 100k into it doesnt make it too fast then.

My car was offred 80k+ awhile back. This car has cost me a good fortune though, I never said it didnt.
i just don't get people like you... i never said the GT2 costs 240k... you made a incorrect statement... and by the way... a stock M3 does not cost 80k... more like 50k and 4x that is 200k (a new GT2)... you need to get your fact straight and maybe learn your math better... good for you if you got offered for 80k... you better take that deal... or else you might just have to live with this OUT DATED M3 for years to come... and besides its not my fault you put so much money in to a M3... i will never put in 100k in an M3 (assuming thats what you payed till date) i think with my head not my ***...

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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SCM3
Really? Thanks. Now i suck at photography too!! Man you are too good. When the car is done i will run at Moroso in FL just to see whats up before it gets trailored to LA.

Never did i bench race, times/dynos/videos can be found of my car. Ive had tons of races and i know what the car is capable of against others.
and thats all too good for you... maybe you should sell your two Pcars sitting in the garage and buy 10 more M3s to mod... just incase if all 9 blows up you still have one to brag about...

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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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i just don't get people like you... i never said the GT2 costs 240k... you made a incorrect statement... and by the way... a stock M3 does not cost 80k... more like 50k and 4x that is 200k (a new GT2)... you need to get your fact straight and maybe learn your math better... good for you if you got offered for 80k... you better take that deal... or else you might just have to live with this OUT DATED M3 for years to come... and besides its not my fault you put so much money in to a M3... i will never put in 100k in an M3 (assuming thats what you payed till date) i think with my head not my ***...

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You are constantly misinforming this whole thread. You said it costs 4 times the M3. M3's are usually going for 64k (56k with no options, never seen one like it), i said 60k to be fair. 60,000 x 4 = 240,000, do i really need to do this....

Lol and i would never pay 200k for a glorified 996tt.. Whether its outdated or not its my preference. Geez you have some issues. I have dated cars and outdated cars, what is your point? If i have money to spend on a hobby such as car's i can do so. It doesnt mean my head is in my ***, im not even going to comment on what i think of your head...

and thats all too good for you... maybe you should sell your two Pcars sitting in the garage and buy 10 more M3s to mod... just incase if all 9 blows up you still have one to brag about...

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As long as i love seeing your slow cars in my rear view (would be too far then to even see)... From the looks of your sig you have never even had a FAST car...
 

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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SCM3
LACR is known for its horrible times, i can care less what you think. The guys that really know tracks know whats up.

689rwhp 11.5@130mph isnt a great figure... With that much power i would have broken 10's at 135 at LACR..

My friend owns a 427 Procharged Z with about everything on it and he made 900+rwhp at A&A. I know what they are capable and what they are not..

I actually do pay for the 997tt, nice try though.

I made what i did on the stock block, i ran it hard on the streets and track. Not 1 blowing incident, i bet your car was tons less reliable. Its cool though, its getting built now.


Not on 20's you wouldnt have, and your second time driving the car. Dont get ahead of yourself, I drag race for fun, not to run nine's but my car is certainly capable of it if I want to risk the rear end blowing up which I do not. My car can easily run 10's and I may strap the DR's on one day but havent really wanted to just yet.

Not from what I've heard.

LOL and even your time may have translated to a 11.5 using an aggressive correction factor, your trap speed would be 130 which is the same as mine. I could go at least .7 faster with DR's and 7-10 mph faster and if I showed you the vid you would see why. I didnt have the turbo spool down yet and got out of the hole decent but coasted to the 330' waiting for the turbos to spool. That wont happen any more. My car with a decent launch and better shifting would have been on the mid - high 10's easily.

Dont get ahead of yourself, my time is a big time underacheivement but it was only my second time at the strip in that car. 5 total runs. Your wouldnt have beat mine then and wont when you get it back, you can bet on that. If the time and opportunity presents iteself I can turn my car into a beast, just havent had the desire to do so. Not a chance in hell you will be able to put something on that car that will stick 1300hp. Your wasiting time and money with that.

In fact your little 3.2 unless it's somthing comparable with a Supra is going to be a ticking time bomb, with meth, nos and all that garbage on it. Lets see what it does on the track besides blow up. My 427 can safely hold 1100 rwhp and that's with race gas at the most. I dont do nos. You got some nerve talking about durability with that thing your building.
 

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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:19 AM
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You guys are real fortune telling engine technicians to be making all these engine blowing comments. Ill just laugh and go along with life now, bye...
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SCM3
You guys are real fortune telling engine technicians to be making all these engine blowing comments. Ill just laugh and go along with life now, bye...
LOL your the one building this unheard of project and you think people are going to buy it? That's pretty funny. Nos + Meth + 3.2 = go bang. Even if not, how long do you think that motor would last running like that, you're gonna need a rebuild every 4k miles

I dont think too many people here would be upset if you left, FOR GOOD.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
LOL your the one building this unheard of project and you think people are going to buy it? That's pretty funny. Nos + Meth + 3.2 = go bang. Even if not, how long do you think that motor would last running like that, you're gonna need a rebuild every 4k miles

I dont think too many people here would be upset if you left, FOR GOOD.
What are you talking about man? You guys seem to be on a different planet..

My car was running a SC + Nitrous (NOS is a brand) + Methanol/Water. It wasnt unheard of and plenty are running around like this now. I ran the car hard 10k miles and it ran flawlessly. No bang here, so your accusations are off...

Now the engine is getting built and a large turbo with all the goodies are being thrown on it. Im still thinking about leaving the nitrous but im not sure of it yet.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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What are you talking about man? You guys seem to be on a different planet..

My car was running a SC + Nitrous (NOS is a brand) + Methanol/Water. It wasnt unheard of and plenty are running around like this now. I ran the car hard 10k miles and it ran flawlessly. No bang here, so your accusations are off...

Now the engine is getting built and a large turbo with all the goodies are being thrown on it. Im still thinking about leaving the nitrous but im not sure of it yet.
Yeah let's do some elemetary school math since the equations are too much for you. 1300hp > 500hp which means that your motor does not last long or do people not inform you of this when talkin about high hp motors.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SCM3
Well depending on tracks, i want to get into the 140's at LACR (insanely difficult though) but i doubt it. Ive never seen anything trap that high there, hayabusa's run 132 trap speeds there... Im at about 3200lb's now.

123 trap was with about 3200lb's also. I was probably making around 580bhp at that time, 650bhp with nitrous. Also i dont know if you saw the video but i lose some traction up in 3rd/4th b/c of sand (i dont know if that would effect the trap).
I've seen the video Vic and it was run in less than ideal conditions. Most people do not understand the difference track conditions make.

If you have the information on your best pass, then please post the condition info:

+ Track altitude (')
+ Air temperature (o F)
+ Relative Humidity (%)
+ Absolute Baro (")

With that you can calculate the Density Altitude. With the DA you can convert to a standard condition pass which can be of some help when comparing timeslips.

I also noted the dust blowing across the strip which *will* impair your short time if it's onthe start line and 60' zone and will impair your ET if it causes you to lose traction down the track.

The DA on my best pass was 918'. I've seen BMW street cars creep into the 11s with DA of *minus* 3,500' at Atco. I can guarantee you that you will never hear me tell you about -4,000' DA at WSID here in Sydney!

Boy do I dream at night of being able to race at Atco or ETown on a cold night! Not just because of the below sea level air, but the superior traction afforded by those strips that see NHRA Top Fueller passes time after time.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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I've seen the video Vic and it was run in less than ideal conditions. Most people do not understand the difference track conditions make.

If you have the information on your best pass, then please post the condition info:

+ Track altitude (')
+ Air temperature (o F)
+ Relative Humidity (%)
+ Absolute Baro (")

With that you can calculate the Density Altitude. With the DA you can convert to a standard condition pass which can be of some help when comparing timeslips.

I also noted the dust blowing across the strip which *will* impair your short time if it's onthe start line and 60' zone and will impair your ET if it causes you to lose traction down the track.

The DA on my best pass was 918'. I've seen BMW street cars creep into the 11s with DA of *minus* 3,500' at Atco. I can guarantee you that you will never hear me tell you about -4,000' DA at WSID here in Sydney!

Boy do I dream at night of being able to race at Atco or ETown on a cold night! Not just because of the below sea level air, but the superior traction afforded by those strips that see NHRA Top Fueller passes time after time.
Wow at negative DA's!!

I used wunderground.com to get the info for my runs on 6/21/06 at 18:36.
2700' + Track altitude (')
79.4 °F + Air temperature (o F)
28% + Relative Humidity (%)
29.87'' + Absolute Baro (")

Which i think equates to a DA of 4773'. Also this ddoesnt account for the sand on the track and the constant 20 mph tailwinds against the car that night. I wont even mention my belt slipping (SC losing boost) and how it came off on its own right after that run (many witnesses)...

Agreed about ATCO and Etown, i wish i had those tracks nearby. Clearly its difficult and very unfair to compare times from ATCO to LACR.


This is what a well known calculator shows:
Density Altitude = 4773
Uncorrected 11.9 @ 123
Corrected 11.17 @ 130.55

It would be nice if people would sort of acknowledge the times i put at LACR even though it seems slow compared to others. Im fairly confident with nitrous at ATCO i would run easy 10's in the 130's (old setup).
 

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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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Wow at negative DA's!!

I used wunderground.com to get the info for my runs on 6/21/06 at 18:36.
2700' + Track altitude (')
79.4 °F + Air temperature (o F)
28% + Relative Humidity (%)
29.87'' + Absolute Baro (")

Which i think equates to a DA of 4773'. Also this ddoesnt account for the sand on the track and the constant 20 mph tailwinds against the car that night.

Agreed about ATCO and Etown, i wish i had those tracks nearby. Clearly its difficult and very unfair to compare times from ATCO to LACR.


This is what a well known calculator shows:
Density Altitude = 4773
Uncorrected 11.9 @ 123
Corrected 11.17 @ 130.55

It would be nice if people would sort of acknowledge the times i put at LACR even though it seems slow compared to others. Im fairly confident with nitrous at ATCO i would run easy 10's in the 130's (old setup).
Who wouldnt run faster at ATCO!!!!!! You corrected from bad conditions to perfect conditions which are not available to anyone very often but moreso people in the northeast.

How do you calculate all that garbage anyways?

NM I looked it up and my DA at the time was 3234 and translated to a 11.13 @ 135.83

I will run 10's on the 19's and 20's I have before I add power or DR's
 

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