991 Turbo or 991 GT3??
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Comparing two cars lap times on a track and not bothering to use equal tires for both cars? While you do that for EVO review? Everybody knows that different tires on the "same" car could result in several seconds of lap time difference.
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hehe....now that the first two reactions to this video come from 2 guys with GTRs in their avator (I know both of us have other cars too), Can someone tell me what was the verdict when he compared GT3 to GTR towards the end of this video on open roads? 
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If I worried about the Turbo sound i'd fix it or buy a Mustang with straight pipes. I owned a turbo and a Gt3. I enjoyed tracking both cars, and at my level (low), I couldn't get anymore out of either car..so the Turbo was more fun for me because I could drive it around town. The Gt3 with its racing seats and constant drone made it uncomfortable except for the track for me. My son has a supercharged Honda S2000, and it was almost as fast as my turbo. There is an aesthetic that applies to Porsche ownership that maddens other car owners. Just get what you think you want. This will change over time. Then get what you want then. I have had many porsches in my lifetime and have enjoyed them all and been disappointed by each of them
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I've been instructing with BMWCCA for several years, it's quite amazing to me how people all rave about the GT3 (for good reasons) but so few can actually use the performance of that car.
I understand most people just want the "best" track car and obviously, the GT3 is the more track oriented car. But few people can actually use it to its full potential. It's not a matter of what car is best for the track, but a matter of what car will be best for the owner.
The Turbo with its awd system, softer suspension and street tires is much easier to drive for most drivers. It is also a lot faster. But then, it becomes a whole freaking lot faster under bad conditions (rain, dust, cold) and to top it all, is much easier to drive.
So what car is best, I'd say for most, the turbo is the best car. Obviously, many will prefer to have Porche's "best track car" no matter if it is not the best choice for them.
I've driven the red group full of Porsche club instructor and many of them had GT3 and GT3RS, and I'd say many of them would have been faster in a Turbo.
Now, I understand that many are not that interested in lap times but just enjoying the car. Then there's nothing wrong with the GT3. I believe the GT3 is much fun to drive. Though, I didn't drive the new 991, I'd guess it will remain true for that generation as well. But don't kid yourself into thinking that the Turbo ain't fun to drive. It is. Though not as much.
So all this ramble leads me to this conclusion, don't lie to yourself. If you're not a very adavanced driver, chances are you'll be much faster and safer in the Turbo. If you don't track the car regularly, you're definitely compromising a lot on the street to have a GT3 over a Turbo. But if you prefer the GT3 for aesthetic reasons or whatever, then that's not a bad choice at all.
I understand most people just want the "best" track car and obviously, the GT3 is the more track oriented car. But few people can actually use it to its full potential. It's not a matter of what car is best for the track, but a matter of what car will be best for the owner.
The Turbo with its awd system, softer suspension and street tires is much easier to drive for most drivers. It is also a lot faster. But then, it becomes a whole freaking lot faster under bad conditions (rain, dust, cold) and to top it all, is much easier to drive.
So what car is best, I'd say for most, the turbo is the best car. Obviously, many will prefer to have Porche's "best track car" no matter if it is not the best choice for them.
I've driven the red group full of Porsche club instructor and many of them had GT3 and GT3RS, and I'd say many of them would have been faster in a Turbo.
Now, I understand that many are not that interested in lap times but just enjoying the car. Then there's nothing wrong with the GT3. I believe the GT3 is much fun to drive. Though, I didn't drive the new 991, I'd guess it will remain true for that generation as well. But don't kid yourself into thinking that the Turbo ain't fun to drive. It is. Though not as much.
So all this ramble leads me to this conclusion, don't lie to yourself. If you're not a very adavanced driver, chances are you'll be much faster and safer in the Turbo. If you don't track the car regularly, you're definitely compromising a lot on the street to have a GT3 over a Turbo. But if you prefer the GT3 for aesthetic reasons or whatever, then that's not a bad choice at all.
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I've been instructing with BMWCCA for several years, it's quite amazing to me how people all rave about the GT3 (for good reasons) but so few can actually use the performance of that car.
I understand most people just want the "best" track car and obviously, the GT3 is the more track oriented car. But few people can actually use it to its full potential. It's not a matter of what car is best for the track, but a matter of what car will be best for the owner.
The Turbo with its awd system, softer suspension and street tires is much easier to drive for most drivers. It is also a lot faster. But then, it becomes a whole freaking lot faster under bad conditions (rain, dust, cold) and to top it all, is much easier to drive.
So what car is best, I'd say for most, the turbo is the best car. Obviously, many will prefer to have Porche's "best track car" no matter if it is not the best choice for them.
I've driven the red group full of Porsche club instructor and many of them had GT3 and GT3RS, and I'd say many of them would have been faster in a Turbo.
Now, I understand that many are not that interested in lap times but just enjoying the car. Then there's nothing wrong with the GT3. I believe the GT3 is much fun to drive. Though, I didn't drive the new 991, I'd guess it will remain true for that generation as well. But don't kid yourself into thinking that the Turbo ain't fun to drive. It is. Though not as much.
So all this ramble leads me to this conclusion, don't lie to yourself. If you're not a very adavanced driver, chances are you'll be much faster and safer in the Turbo. If you don't track the car regularly, you're definitely compromising a lot on the street to have a GT3 over a Turbo. But if you prefer the GT3 for aesthetic reasons or whatever, then that's not a bad choice at all.
I understand most people just want the "best" track car and obviously, the GT3 is the more track oriented car. But few people can actually use it to its full potential. It's not a matter of what car is best for the track, but a matter of what car will be best for the owner.
The Turbo with its awd system, softer suspension and street tires is much easier to drive for most drivers. It is also a lot faster. But then, it becomes a whole freaking lot faster under bad conditions (rain, dust, cold) and to top it all, is much easier to drive.
So what car is best, I'd say for most, the turbo is the best car. Obviously, many will prefer to have Porche's "best track car" no matter if it is not the best choice for them.
I've driven the red group full of Porsche club instructor and many of them had GT3 and GT3RS, and I'd say many of them would have been faster in a Turbo.
Now, I understand that many are not that interested in lap times but just enjoying the car. Then there's nothing wrong with the GT3. I believe the GT3 is much fun to drive. Though, I didn't drive the new 991, I'd guess it will remain true for that generation as well. But don't kid yourself into thinking that the Turbo ain't fun to drive. It is. Though not as much.
So all this ramble leads me to this conclusion, don't lie to yourself. If you're not a very adavanced driver, chances are you'll be much faster and safer in the Turbo. If you don't track the car regularly, you're definitely compromising a lot on the street to have a GT3 over a Turbo. But if you prefer the GT3 for aesthetic reasons or whatever, then that's not a bad choice at all.
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No, the TT does not have PDK-S, so it's 6 forward gears w/ the overdrive 7th. No one has definitive info on buckets I believe, but GT3 will likely get it at some point, and I'm sure it will be retrofittable to TT at that point (though likely not able to be ordered w/ it).
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I'm not ready for a 991...yet. However liked this post...
Have a 997.1 TT and I'm one of the daily driver guys (rain / snow / shine) and sometimes track. Have two girls who easily fit in the back.
Slap some snow tires on in December - March and she is just great in the foul weather.
Have driven the GTs and love them - outstanding and really great on the track. I'm an average track guy - and like someone posted before - just looking to enjoy the car (a very small % of what she can do
) a few times a year without getting arrested! 98% of the time - I'm on public roads. For me - the GT3 would do very little to improve my performance/enjoyment on the track - but would prob make my daily drive experience a little more difficult (namely the lack of rear seats - and more track like suspension).
Either choice will put a smile on your face. In the end its all a matter of the right question...
"what do you want to get out of it and how will you drive it?"
With honest answers you will certainly come to the right decision!
Enjoy! and wouldn't it be nice if the whole world had problems like these!!
Have a 997.1 TT and I'm one of the daily driver guys (rain / snow / shine) and sometimes track. Have two girls who easily fit in the back.
Slap some snow tires on in December - March and she is just great in the foul weather.
Have driven the GTs and love them - outstanding and really great on the track. I'm an average track guy - and like someone posted before - just looking to enjoy the car (a very small % of what she can do
) a few times a year without getting arrested! 98% of the time - I'm on public roads. For me - the GT3 would do very little to improve my performance/enjoyment on the track - but would prob make my daily drive experience a little more difficult (namely the lack of rear seats - and more track like suspension). Either choice will put a smile on your face. In the end its all a matter of the right question...
"what do you want to get out of it and how will you drive it?"
With honest answers you will certainly come to the right decision!
Enjoy! and wouldn't it be nice if the whole world had problems like these!!
Hi all
New member here - this is my first post. Interesting thread - the exact same thing has been going through my mind since they released images of these cars!
I am planning on buying a 991TT or GT3 and have never been so confused! I want something comfortable as a DD that I can also track at times (guessing the Turbo fits in here). Have been a passenger in the 997.2 GT3 and RS on the track and loved the sound/performance but they felt a little underpowered on the straights. Is there anything wrong with tracking the Turbo generally? Does it not hold its own?
Have always wanted a turbo since the 964 days and have just been waiting for the opportunity to jump on one but I do seriously love this aero kit on the 991 GT3 + the racing seats/seat-belts + alcantara options + exhaust note (wonder if these are available for the turbo or not!?!).
Reading this thread though it seems most would prefer the GT3 without giving it a second thought.
New member here - this is my first post. Interesting thread - the exact same thing has been going through my mind since they released images of these cars!
I am planning on buying a 991TT or GT3 and have never been so confused! I want something comfortable as a DD that I can also track at times (guessing the Turbo fits in here). Have been a passenger in the 997.2 GT3 and RS on the track and loved the sound/performance but they felt a little underpowered on the straights. Is there anything wrong with tracking the Turbo generally? Does it not hold its own?
Have always wanted a turbo since the 964 days and have just been waiting for the opportunity to jump on one but I do seriously love this aero kit on the 991 GT3 + the racing seats/seat-belts + alcantara options + exhaust note (wonder if these are available for the turbo or not!?!).
Reading this thread though it seems most would prefer the GT3 without giving it a second thought.
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