Rebuilding a Porsche 996 Turbo(cup)-03 to a street legal racecar..
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He is mostly on other forums I'm not sure if it's permitted to link but here is a shorter build thread in English.. It's a much longer one in Swedish on a local forum! :-)
I bought his RSR body kit and are putting it on my car right now!!
http://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-c...turbo-rsr.html
I bought his RSR body kit and are putting it on my car right now!!
http://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-c...turbo-rsr.html
Very, very cool. Is SMR making his own body parts now? I am not 100% sure, but I believe I have found the source for SMR's original RSR parts and the parts sold by Albert Motorsport in Germany. PM if you need any help.
What are you doing for suspension uprights? One of the things that I was worried about with the RSR conversion was the need for very expensive suspension uprights and cutting large parts of the wheel well to get the car low enough in the rear. The other possibility is leaving the rear higher and sticking the rear flares on the side of the rear fenders rather than flush with the top of the fenders (as in the build linked below, if you haven't seen it). But if you want to go as fast as SMR, you may have to go that route to take advantage of the lower CG. Might make the car marginal on the street tho.
And what about intercoolers? No room for ducts with the car lowered completely...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-s-inside.html
What are you doing for suspension uprights? One of the things that I was worried about with the RSR conversion was the need for very expensive suspension uprights and cutting large parts of the wheel well to get the car low enough in the rear. The other possibility is leaving the rear higher and sticking the rear flares on the side of the rear fenders rather than flush with the top of the fenders (as in the build linked below, if you haven't seen it). But if you want to go as fast as SMR, you may have to go that route to take advantage of the lower CG. Might make the car marginal on the street tho.
And what about intercoolers? No room for ducts with the car lowered completely...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-s-inside.html
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oh, i'm determined to do some cosmetic upgrades since i'm pretty much ( huh, wha?! ) done for the *moment* with power mods. i just am torn since i don't think i can go all the way as puppan has/is, and i don't want to have my car frankensteinian! 
or half assed.
oh the dilemma of it all
or half assed.oh the dilemma of it all
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should i assume from that the gt2/3 uprights will not accommodate the lower stance? and are the cup parts totally different ( of course they are duh..sorry lol )
Yes, there are numerous different 996 uprights and even more 997. I am not certain if there was only 1 variant of the RSR/GT3-R rear uprights (prob not - I remember hearing or reading something about with provisions for parking brake and w/o, but I suffer from CRS). You need these rear uprights to go low enough, though.
There was an entire video series by Orbit Racing on converting a brand new GT3 to RSR/-R specs that highlights these issues. Prob still on YouTube somewhere.
Other obvious differences between the RSR and GT3-R were the routing of the air through the radiators. The RSR had the radiators turned 90° with the air exiting in front of the front wheels whereas the -R had the regular configuration. I read somewhere that the RSR radiators and ducting were well into the 5 figures. Nuckin futs. I assume that is why Pete wrote the below? Or is there another reason for the hybrid?
There was an entire video series by Orbit Racing on converting a brand new GT3 to RSR/-R specs that highlights these issues. Prob still on YouTube somewhere.
Other obvious differences between the RSR and GT3-R were the routing of the air through the radiators. The RSR had the radiators turned 90° with the air exiting in front of the front wheels whereas the -R had the regular configuration. I read somewhere that the RSR radiators and ducting were well into the 5 figures. Nuckin futs. I assume that is why Pete wrote the below? Or is there another reason for the hybrid?
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He is mostly on other forums I'm not sure if it's permitted to link but here is a shorter build thread in English.. It's a much longer one in Swedish on a local forum! :-)
I bought his RSR body kit and are putting it on my car right now!!
http://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-c...turbo-rsr.html
I bought his RSR body kit and are putting it on my car right now!!
http://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-c...turbo-rsr.html
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Yes, there are numerous different 996 uprights and even more 997. I am not certain if there was only 1 variant of the RSR/GT3-R rear uprights (prob not - I remember hearing or reading something about with provisions for parking brake and w/o, but I suffer from CRS). You need these rear uprights to go low enough, though.
There was an entire video series by Orbit Racing on converting a brand new GT3 to RSR/-R specs that highlights these issues. Prob still on YouTube somewhere.
Other obvious differences between the RSR and GT3-R were the routing of the air through the radiators. The RSR had the radiators turned 90° with the air exiting in front of the front wheels whereas the -R had the regular configuration. I read somewhere that the RSR radiators and ducting were well into the 5 figures. Nuckin futs. I assume that is why Pete wrote the below? Or is there another reason for the hybrid?
There was an entire video series by Orbit Racing on converting a brand new GT3 to RSR/-R specs that highlights these issues. Prob still on YouTube somewhere.
Other obvious differences between the RSR and GT3-R were the routing of the air through the radiators. The RSR had the radiators turned 90° with the air exiting in front of the front wheels whereas the -R had the regular configuration. I read somewhere that the RSR radiators and ducting were well into the 5 figures. Nuckin futs. I assume that is why Pete wrote the below? Or is there another reason for the hybrid?
Regarding the front. I´m going GT3R/RSR hybrid here jus to avoid the cooling duct costs. I´m upgrading to the Gt3R ducts behind the coolers.
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I can help you if you want, of course its pretty expensive bu think it will be great looking.. :-) Are you putting it on a 996TT or a 997?
After we are done you will be able to see what we done and you can get a copy of my kit if interested?!
/Pete
After we are done you will be able to see what we done and you can get a copy of my kit if interested?!
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No they are not regarding mounting. I´m running 997 Cup both in the front and back you just need to make some changes in the mount points... ;-) But the geometry of the 997 parts is of course much better also allowing bigger brakes!
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Very, very cool. Is SMR making his own body parts now? I am not 100% sure, but I believe I have found the source for SMR's original RSR parts and the parts sold by Albert Motorsport in Germany. PM if you need any help.
What are you doing for suspension uprights? One of the things that I was worried about with the RSR conversion was the need for very expensive suspension uprights and cutting large parts of the wheel well to get the car low enough in the rear. The other possibility is leaving the rear higher and sticking the rear flares on the side of the rear fenders rather than flush with the top of the fenders (as in the build linked below, if you haven't seen it). But if you want to go as fast as SMR, you may have to go that route to take advantage of the lower CG. Might make the car marginal on the street tho.
And what about intercoolers? No room for ducts with the car lowered completely...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-s-inside.html
What are you doing for suspension uprights? One of the things that I was worried about with the RSR conversion was the need for very expensive suspension uprights and cutting large parts of the wheel well to get the car low enough in the rear. The other possibility is leaving the rear higher and sticking the rear flares on the side of the rear fenders rather than flush with the top of the fenders (as in the build linked below, if you haven't seen it). But if you want to go as fast as SMR, you may have to go that route to take advantage of the lower CG. Might make the car marginal on the street tho.
And what about intercoolers? No room for ducts with the car lowered completely...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-s-inside.html
See my above post regarding uprights etc.
Right now my car is about 9 mm higher than the lowest height of a 997Cup in the rear(123mm)! This is with 30/68/18 wheels. If I would stay with those tires the height with Air tunnels is ok. But going for 31/71/18 this will be a problem because that will enforce another 15mm of non-wanted height to get them in the wheel well... We are looking at this for the moment. We have some ideas that will evolve later on here...stay tuned!! ;-)
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Thank you so much for this thread! I've been following it since you started it and it keeps giving and giving
Great updates and I love the long term commitment you've made. Most people just want to build and move on to the next project but you have continued to refine and improve on a great platform.
Great updates and I love the long term commitment you've made. Most people just want to build and move on to the next project but you have continued to refine and improve on a great platform.
It was a HUGE struggle to get it street legal and with the papers I have now.. I want to stick with it... ;-)
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Very, very cool. Is SMR making his own body parts now? I am not 100% sure, but I believe I have found the source for SMR's original RSR parts and the parts sold by Albert Motorsport in Germany. PM if you need any help.
What are you doing for suspension uprights? One of the things that I was worried about with the RSR conversion was the need for very expensive suspension uprights and cutting large parts of the wheel well to get the car low enough in the rear. The other possibility is leaving the rear higher and sticking the rear flares on the side of the rear fenders rather than flush with the top of the fenders (as in the build linked below, if you haven't seen it). But if you want to go as fast as SMR, you may have to go that route to take advantage of the lower CG. Might make the car marginal on the street tho.
And what about intercoolers? No room for ducts with the car lowered completely...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-s-inside.html
What are you doing for suspension uprights? One of the things that I was worried about with the RSR conversion was the need for very expensive suspension uprights and cutting large parts of the wheel well to get the car low enough in the rear. The other possibility is leaving the rear higher and sticking the rear flares on the side of the rear fenders rather than flush with the top of the fenders (as in the build linked below, if you haven't seen it). But if you want to go as fast as SMR, you may have to go that route to take advantage of the lower CG. Might make the car marginal on the street tho.
And what about intercoolers? No room for ducts with the car lowered completely...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-s-inside.html
Thanks mate!
Me and SMR are good friends and help one another alot! :-) His not manufacturing this as of now but maybe we will come out with a conversion kit in the future.. ;-)
I´m well aware about the problems you are mentioning. I´ve been looking thru alot of the info that exists(build threads, You tube, blogs etc)around this and everyone is VERY secret about what they did.. Especially around the rear fenders.. But hopefully everything will clear soon! :-
As said before stay tuned! ;-)
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Yes this is absolutely correct! :-)
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