996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
On a tip though? Drive train loss goes up even from the AWD. I imagine a Tip is losing in the low-mid 20%.
I agree..that's why I said "enough boost". Todd has had K16 Hybrids for 1-1/2 years now and was making WAYYY over 500whp...
 
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re: brake prices...
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OK, now thats funny!!!
Like I said - I have my own concerns about the car.

Something like $900 per rotor, ~$600 for a pair of pads, including taxes and labor (which includes bedding). It may have been closer to $5k.
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Yep,throughout this thread, I have been wondering how he thinks he has 580-600hp with K16's, a flash and exhaust? My car was 425awhp with those mods I'm gonna guess the GTR is right there too?
On a Mustang dyno, my car baselined at 400whp before any mods. It seems to be the norm. The range has been between 400 - 415 (with a few higher and lower).
 
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
re: brake prices...
Like I said - I have my own concerns about the car.

Something like $900 per rotor, ~$600 for a pair of pads, including taxes and labor (which includes bedding). It may have been closer to $5k.

On a Mustang dyno, my car baselined at 400whp before any mods. It seems to be the norm. The range has been between 400 - 415 (with a few higher and lower).

It's good that you obviously see the humor in that 7k is outrageous but 6k is almost reasonable for brakes. Thanks for the dyno info...interesting. I have yet to park my a$$ is one of these, but I am looking forward to the opportunity someday. I can't say as I would want one, as I don't think they are that great looking, but mad respect for the awesome performance from a factory AWD vehicle.
 
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Originally Posted by VividRacingTX
I may have a dyno of my car with his exact mods now that I think about. I think he's close to 465-485 (Dynojet) on his 16/16's.

that would make sense. However, with several hundred pounds less and more hp to the wheels, he should have beaten a stock GTR. WE need to see a dyno of that car. He may have something else going on. Also would not be bad to see a dyno of the GTR. Could be that the GTR in question may be making more than std and the TIp is making less than OP thought. The two GTR's I saw dynoed personally were within 5whp of each other on the same day same dyno. And their numbers would have translated back to about 480 bhp or so. But I have heard of other GTR's having more. I think the same dyno had another one on another day pulling 15 whp more than the two I saw.
 
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I know of a GT-R on a stock motor that makes almost exactly what I do. It was even tuned and built by the same people who built and tuned my car... Wonder who that could be
 
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Originally Posted by Zeroh
You know cuz you were there ?

WE did 3 rolls, GTR driving trying both manual and auto shifting... same result everytime.

We know each other and were both 100% on it.... it happened, deal with it !
Ok, guess you have a faster car.. I ran a Protomotive PE700 tiptronic for some time... and didnt pull three car lengths on a GTR ever... guess there was something wrong with my car... Todd you have some answering to do ! haha
 
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Yes, there is either something wrong with your car or the GT-R was modded.

You should put bus lengths on a stock GT-R with a PE700.
 
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Originally Posted by Harold
Ok, guess you have a faster car.. I ran a Protomotive PE700 tiptronic for some time... and didnt pull three car lengths on a GTR ever... guess there was something wrong with my car... Todd you have some answering to do ! haha
definitely something wrong with your car

or the driver
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Yes, there is either something wrong with your car or the GT-R was modded.

You should put bus lengths on a stock GT-R with a PE700.
+1...

Are you SURE there isn't a Cobb tune on there? Absolutely positive? This can be done by even the most inexperienced owner in just a few minutes.

Over 80mph, in stock form, the GT-R starts falling on it's face (relative to the Cobb Stage 1 tune). You should switch cars, put on the boost meter, and see what happens...
 
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no, the GTR was bone stock and had 4 people in it. But harold started off in 6th gear at 40 mph, he waited for the lag to go away, but it never did.

Just kidding Harold......
 
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putting the subject back on my slow tip...data testing should be happening yesterday/today...I bought the $2k tune from Todd / Vivid, so hopefully they can figure out if there is something wrong with the tune.
 
Old Mar 2, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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^ lol! Somebody has got some 'splainin to do!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Harold
Ok, guess you have a faster car.. I ran a Protomotive PE700 tiptronic for some time... and didnt pull three car lengths on a GTR ever... guess there was something wrong with my car... Todd you have some answering to do ! haha
So you with a 200+ hp and 150kg+ advantage couldnt put 3 car lengths on a GTR ???

Well I guess I'm at a loss for you then...
 
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yeah a P700 should have kept on pulling away from stock GTR.
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
yeah a P700 should have kept on pulling away from stock GTR.
Yeah, I have run against 400whp cars and it's not even a race...I actually apologized for car raping him...
 


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