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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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So some updates well everything is fixed and still getting those codes plus when i floor it i see greyish smoke all the way to redline burning rich. This has to be the tune. My car was fine before this i know that.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Unplug your battery for 10 minutes and then go for a short drive, probably 20 minutes. When your car has warmed up, log your car from 2500 up to max rev. in 3rd gear. You need to look at the data to get an idea of what's going on.

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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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I just did a quick pull i only had room for second gear everyone is shopping and cops are everywhere over here let me know what u think. Ill do a third gear pull tomorrow.
 

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How many lines from the top is your oil? Might have a bad turbo black smoke isnt good man. Ive seen that with overflow of oil in the case or when a turbo is spitting oil in the exhaust. Good luck. Who installed the turbos were they properly oiled pre boost?

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My oil is perfect we always burn a little because of being turbo but i have no oil in my hoses or exhaust. Its certainly burning rich its greyish not black. I get codes that say rich condition idle adaption range both banks. I can say man im burning crazy fuel i fill up a half of tank and i do get on my car alot lol but after 30 miles im already below 3/4 of a tank.

Now im thinking its the tune maybe i just need an update also i was in the middle for my lines when checking my oil when i got my car 500 miles ago and im just one line down from that so i know im not burning oil.
 

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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
I just did a quick pull i only had room for second gear everyone is shopping and cops are evertwhere at here let me know what u think. Ill do a third gear pull tomorrow.
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Ok so now i got the codes again i know what is going on. I checked my idle fuel trims damn im running rich as hell with the 5 bar. Tony im hoping fixes this with a updated. I started looking at the fuel trims like you guys said and the tuner said there way too high at idle.......
 
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I brought that up also in above beginning post and I believe Tony said in a response, that the 5 bar would not cause that rich condition at idle?..
 
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I brought that up also in above beginning post and I believe Tony said in a response, that the 5 bar would not cause that rich condition at idle?..
Yes u did now i remember well these codes are coming from fuel trim at idle basicly the car runs rich at idle i watched these numbers moving around lol. Everything is fixed when im at wot it just goes fast.
 
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Also i asked Tony too lower my idle back to normal he raised it too 850RPM i think this has something to do with it from the tuner. Tony can you lower my idle please and new update tune.
 
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Alright guys heres a freeze frame of my ST FTRM1 this is what caused the code to pop up at exact moment. Sorry i forgot to take the freeze frame of the other bank. Thank you too U-Scan great device for free.

Manifold absolute pressure was at 75.3 HG at the freeze frame which equals 36psi how is that possible at idle?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 11:23 PM
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Confirm you do not have the HKS BOV on the car? If you pull enough vacuum on it at idle, it will vent metered air to the atmosphere and can cause a rich condition. This will never show up on a pressure check. Your issues scream vacuum leak to me, but it wouldn't hurt to confirm with tony you've got the correct 5 bar file as well.
 
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Confirm you do not have the HKS BOV on the car? If you pull enough vacuum on it at idle, it will vent metered air to the atmosphere and can cause a rich condition. This will never show up on a pressure check. Your issues scream vacuum leak to me, but it wouldn't hurt to confirm with tony you've got the correct 5 bar file as well.
I have the forged diverters on the car for right now still doing the samething. Do those numbers look right? I can take longer data the tuner has confirmed it is running rich at idle. I did have Tony raise it up now i guess thats not a good idea.

Well for it too call up a freeze frame on those numbers something isnt right with the fuel trims. I should have taken the kther bank freeze frame p0175 p0172 if it happens today ill have both freeze frames for you guys.
 

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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
I have the forged diverters on the car for right now still doing the samething. Do those numbers look right? I can take longer data the tuner has confirmed it is running rich at idle. I did have Tony raise it up now i guess thats not a good idea.

Well for it too call up a freeze frame on those numbers something isnt right with the fuel trims. I should have taken the kther bank freeze frame p0175 p0172 if it happens today ill have both freeze frames for you guys.
Yeah doesn't seem right, do you have O2 values at idle as well? Are the Forge diverters recirculated like stock or are the outlets dumping to the atmosphere like the HKS was?
 
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Yeah doesn't seem right, do you have O2 values at idle as well? Are the Forge diverters recirculated like stock or are the outlets dumping to the atmosphere like the HKS was?
Everything is done just like you guys told me to do including the bov. I agree what i will do is the u scan takes live graphs i will do that and let it idle heres a crazy graph it took so my trims went back up once i cleared the code to -21.9 this is wacked lol also on the freeze pic it says i was doing 7mph so.
 
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