I met Tyson...Great guy...
His comments here where nowhere near as bad as the thread that got deleted where some other members were throwing racist names cause some Arab rally driver had an expensive car collection...Hatorade should not be consumed prior to logging on to public forums...

 

Oh dear Red Devil (Jim),

Like most east coast folk you are always so egalitarian and considerate.

We will just have to agree to disagree. I don't like Vettes, therefore I do not acknowledge them. In fact, I have more respect even for Mustang or Viper owners.

The GT3 is the best when it comes to handling. The modded Turbo was awesome in a straight line, but of course it doesn't handle like the GT3. The GT2 just makes you smile every time you kick out the tail in a high speed drift. It's better than the Turbo, handles about as well as the GT3.

What's so hard to understand about that?

 

At least the Vette is not part of the 1.9 million vehicle recall GM has done (2 separate recalls) over the last WEEK!!!!

You'd think somebody would figure out that a little quality control at the manufacturing side would save gazillions of dollars in recall money, but that's GM for ya.

 

Uhhh... what about the 10 second time difference on the Nurburgring Nordschliefe? 1 second on a short track is a lot, that's the difference between an M3 and M3 CSL.

Unless you've driven a GT2, you wouldn't understand. I sure didn't until my first test drive. It's not only about times, it's the way the car dances with you around the corner-- it really is amazing.

 

Yes indeed. My friend has a C5 witha blower, heads, cams, NOS and other bolt ons and is capable of running high 9s. He can punk me pretty good...

 

You can run high 9's too... you just need to put more money into the tip. As if you didn't already spend enough.

Actually, had you not bought those expensive brakes, you could have put more towards the engine and NOS. You'd still stop better than the Vette even with the stockers.

 

Well last years Lap of America race was won by an MTI Z07. They beat everyone , Porsche, Viper, Ferrari Lambo etc. Take that as you wish. There were many high dollar tuner cars there that got embarassed. MTI has also been invited to Car and Driver Tuner Shoot out this year so we will be able to get some more head to head numbers.

As far as why anyone would own a Vette ... well some of us like that V8 rumble and are not so full of crap that we can not identify a great car. I can't understand why you would not want one.

I think your attitude sucks but you are entitled to it, just be careful and keep staying away from those Vettes because some of them will embarrass you.

 

BTW, for all those who worship the Z06, it took them HOW MANY years to break 8 minutes on the Nurburgring?

In case you haven't heard, in '04 GM revalved the shocks for the Z06 and now proudly calls it the "Nurburgring" tested suspension. Made a 7:56 with the SCCA T1 national champ behind the wheel. They finally matched the 996 Turbo (K16) and the 996 GT3 even with the superior Power to Weight ratio.

Not bad for $55 grand, too bad it's still cheezy.

 

I don't think anyone here is worshipping the vette, they/we just think you aren't giving it the credit it deserves. Great car for the buck. It's capable of great things. Just look at the domination it's had in SCCA racing when the C5 came along it was all vipers and porsches. I thinkt his year there were only 2 cars that weren't vettes when it came down to the finals.

 

DUDE the Z06 has only been available since 2001 three years doesn't seem too bad. How long did it take the 996 to break 8 min? Did they do it in the first year? Also 55k is a suckers price. They can be had for mid 40s very easily ... brand new. I guess that makes it even more "cheezy".

See I won't bash or look down upon others because of the car they drive. I know better than that.

 

Yea, I mean for gods sake chad drives a Sabel everyday

 

As a matter of fact, the 996 GT3 Mk. 1 lapped in 7:56 in 2000 by Walter Rohrl.

The 996 Turbo also achieved the same time back in 2000, the Turbo was introduced in late 2000 as a MY01.

The 996 GT2 set the production car record at the time of its introduction back in '01 with a time of 7:46, set by two different drivers.

 

 

Well a heavy Renntech SL 7.4 won one year, so what does this really prove? I once spoke to Harmut Feyhl about this, and he said they won strictly with pure power.

Considering Adee used two bottles of Nitrous to supplement his 485WHP, should I be that surprised that it beat cars like a 385hp Ruf RGT, which incidentally came in 4th?

There are plenty of reasons why I would not own a Vette. Let's name a few for starters.

1. Cheap, plasticky interior
2. substandard build quality
3. "Mr. Goodwrench" service
4. **** star, silicone tit inspired styling
5. overall lack of refinement

If I wanted to win a drag race, wouldn't I have just kept my last Turbo and built it out even more like Chad's? I would really like to see your or SW's MTI car beat Chad's Killer Angel on any road course.

As for your last point, we all know that my GT2 is going to remain perfectly stock, so I guess you're right...

 

Hey! I resemble that comment. Kid Rock is the shizit.

Tyson has always been a little blunt on this forum, not a totally bad thing...gives some added color to the forums. Whoops!, I said color...can I say that? I dont like Vettes either, I know there are some out there that are VERY sick, But I would not own one. I love P-cars. We are all entitled to our opinions. Hell I think my "old" air cooled Porsche's are alot nicer than a 996 TT, but thats me and my flavor. Most everyone here has very nice cars, but not every nice car suits everyone's taste.