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Old May 3, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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Likewise I find it strange that you have chosen to report Porsche's claim of 7:38 as an independent lap time. Since when do manufacturers report their own times independently?
 
Old May 3, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS29
The reason Porsche didn't call bs to any of those other cars, is because they are considered in the same "league". Pricing, horsepower, etc. Then comes Nissan, being compared to GT3, Turbo, M3, R8, etc. etc. and handily beating them all on road and track.
Two of the fastest cars around the Nurburgring are closer in price to the GTR than to any Porsches and Ferrari's. The GTR does compete with the GT3, M3 and R8 but not with the Enzo, Zonda and ACR.
 
Old May 3, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
Likewise I find it strange that you have chosen to report Porsche's claim of 7:38 as an independent lap time. Since when do manufacturers report their own times independently?
I see you've worked out how to use the text size feature. Looks Great!

I wonder where MC is at. Researching perhaps.
 
Old May 3, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Show me a GTR that has come close to Nissan's published time!!!!!!!
 
Old May 3, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
Show me a GTR that has come close to Nissan's published time!!!!!!!
What's funny is that Nissan had several drivers there testing prior to launch, not just Toshio. However none could even get under 7:44 until a week or two before release. Then after 8 months in which they had plenty of time for ideal conditions while testing with 3 drivers at a time, they get 7:38 in non ideal conditions with Toshio magically right before release? And then the other drivers disappear? The fact is that even Nissan's other drivers couldn't get better than mid 7:40's with closer to stock vehicles. If I'm not mistaken Toshio's name was never mentioned for their testing until that 7:38. Seems Nissan needed an Alibi when even the other guys are pro racers. And these are on Dunlops as mentioned in Nissan's official press release when responding to Porsches claim. Nissan goes back and takes 9 seconds off with the same tires, and less only two slightly damp sections of track and minor suspension changes.

There is so much foul play by Nissan it's crazy, and they try to front like they are being open and honest. It's rather actually.

Let's see Suzuki go and drive Tsukuba 3 seconds faster than everyone else in a GT-R, then we'll buy that he drove the ring 20 seconds faster than everyone else too.
 
Old May 3, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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I agree the GT-R is extremely easy to drive at 70 percent pace

Originally Posted by jaspergtr
you seem really confused and clueless about this car, yet you have so much to say.

i thought this was explained numerous times...

for those of you who still haven't driven the gt-r and don't understand it (but yet, still feel qualified to discredit the car):

i believe it is easier for an average person to extract 60% - 80% of the gt-r's performance than any other car, but it is far more difficult to get that last tenth out of the gt-r than any other.
I have had a chance to both drive the car on the street and the track. my opinion on the car is that I was not really the target audience for this car. I'm not a huge fan of tech just for the sack of tech. watching a constant G meter is kind of cool for a few minutes but honestly not something that I would ever feel the need to have in a car. There is no question the car is extremely capable and a down right performance bargain. The styling is very Japanese which is either a turn on or turn off depending what you grew up on. I personally think the watch car is good looking without out being beautiful. My real complaint with the car is its lack of emotion. It just goes about being very fast without making me feel very involved. I feel like my mom or my girlfriend could drive the car just as fast as I could. Some will find this to be a big plus, but I personally like to feel like I am taming a beast. As i said I really was not the intend target for this car but I'm glad a car like this exists to make all the other car companies stay on their game.
 

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Old May 4, 2009 | 02:04 AM
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The GTR never stood a chance with my 997TT... I got a video to prove it.
 
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The GTR never stood a chance with my 997TT... I got a video to prove it.
Please show us!
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Yep. But I'm wondering if this GT-R that will be racing in World Challenge will be Tube Frame. The GT-R can be competitive in a series that's much faster than the tires they run if it can run AWD. But that's about it, any other series will require a tube frame.
On Planet LeMans they give the results of round one of the 2009 FIA GT championship at Silverstone. A Nissan GTR (V8, I believe) placed next to last. Must admit it is a rather new car. However, the Cayman was new when it posted pretty good results in the 2007 running of the 24 hours of Nurburgring.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Top three in GT1 were an S7R, MC12 and a C6R....apparently even setup as a proper race car...the GTR is increasingly mortal...
 
Old May 5, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
Top three in GT1 were an S7R, MC12 and a C6R....apparently even setup as a proper race car...the GTR is increasingly mortal...
Well, that GT-R is using a non-standard production rear end (which failed causing the retirement), and is also using a non-production V8 (VK from the QX56), just to name a few differences to remain compliant with the regulations.

For the first race ever, using 1-off parts, I think they did well when they were placing ahead of the Ford GT. What on earth does this have to do with a so-called production GT-R's alleged performance?
 
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Nissan engineers are supposed to be miracle workers, they were meant to be so much better and more advanced than anyone else. They should have used a stock GTR, that would have won them the race.
 
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My god, this thread is still going strong huh? WOW.
 
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Originally Posted by monaroCountry
Nissan engineers are supposed to be miracle workers, they were meant to be so much better and more advanced than anyone else. They should have used a stock GTR, that would have won them the race.
Who knows? Perhaps if they allowed the AWD TTV6 version, it might have done better. But that isn't in the cards.
 


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